Norman Teigen has left a new comment on your post "WELS Feminists - Church and Change":
GJ: What do you mean about women acting like women and men acting like women? I am confused and request that you provide some enlightenment. Are there certain things, other than the obvious, e.g. child-bearing, that can be specifically male or female? How does this line of thinking apply to the general place of women in the church? Can women teach men, for example, when women are better educated on a certain topic than are some men?
Norman Teigen
Lutheran Layman
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GJ - The male church leaders act like fainting women. They cannot even acknowledge the anti-Biblical errors being promoted right under their noses. The male laity and pastors do not have the courage or sense to vote the apostates out. They are all a bunch of girly-girls because they are afraid of the big bucks behind apostasy. Leaders and followers - all girly-girls.
WELS Church Lady has posted a lot of intelligent and funny comments about the situation. She is far more courageous than the ordained pastors. She understands justification by faith while the rest say, "Duh. Now that is OJ and that is SJ."
I was not advocating women taking over. WELS, Missouri, and the Little Sect are doing that. I did not promote the feminist conference led by Church and Changers. SP Schroeder did that - twice.
I need some free publicity too, so I can beg for some grants. How about a link on the ELS page? Let's face it - no one will notice it anyway.
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Do you think that it is reasonable for well-educated women to instruct not-so-well educated men on church-related questions? The crazies on Luther Quest seem to deny that this could or should happen. What say you?
Norman Teigen
Lutheran Layman
P.S. Funny about the links to the ELS page. I think that you are right. I don't see the women taking over the ELS as yet. There are some very well-educated women in the ELS who are quite capable of infusing some missing wisdom into the affairs of the little Norwegian Synod.
Norman Teigen
Lutheran Layman
The feminists partner with the gays to get their mutual agendas accomplished. Given the circumstances, I see no hope. The older Boomers were bad enough. The younger Boomers are even worse, a bad combination of self-puffery and scardy-catness. ELCA can dance in rainbow robes and get Missouri to kiss up to them. ELCA has spent 23 years attacking the doctrines of the faith, and the "conservative" Lutherans find ways to get in bed with them.
I have known of only one situation personally where a congregation president was not scared of his own shadow. A veteran pastor got boorish with him and refused to cooperate. The president manned up and got into the pastor's face, demanding some answers. Like a true bully, the pastor's knees got wobbly when confronted. By secular profession, this council president was a truck driver. With the corporate business model adopted by many congregations, a CEO type is what they like to see in the positions of leadership. They like the bottom line, which translates into numbers. While it may be unfair to generalize, this trend is easily recognizable. Naturally, the corporate model fits hand in glove with the Church Growth methods. The lack of opposition to the CGM by lay leaders is distressing. After all, they may lose a popularity contest but they will still retain their livelihood in the real world. Just once, they should have a Luther moment. It is actually very satisfying. God will bless.
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