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Thursday, September 9, 2010

Maybe Because Bruce Church Told the Truth about Sky-High Tuition and the 600 Empty Parish Lie

bruce-church ( has left a new comment on your post "Lulu Makes It Safe and Permanent":

Concordia St. Louis Seminary must have record low number of resident M Div students--only 62 matriculated! For the 2008-9 year they had 90. I doubt the seminaries have their online M Div courses up and running yet. Both seminaries now cost nearly $22k per year!

On CTS news page, they don't mention the # of students at all, and no news is bad news, I'd guess:

CTS to Begin 165th Academic Year

2009 CUS press release:

excerpts: 426 pre-sem students in 2005, to 245 this fall, a drop of 181 students, or 42 percent.
Those schools are “feeders” for the seminaries, he said, and when their numbers fall, those of the seminaries do, too.

Tuition and fees at each of the seminaries runs about $21,600 per year.


From: concordianews@CSL.EDU
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:52 AM



September 9, 2010

ST. LOUIS—On Friday, Sept. 3, at 10:00 a.m., Concordia Seminary, St. Louis, began its 172nd academic year with a special worship service in the Chapel of St. Timothy and St. Titus on the Seminary campus. Dr. Dale A. Meyer, president of Concordia Seminary, served as preacher.

The incoming class is comprised of nearly 130 students, including all those newly enrolled in residential and distance programs: 62 residential M.Div. students; seven certificate students; four deaconess students; nine Ethnic Immigrant Institute of Theology (EIIT) students; 24 Specific Ministry Pastor Program (SMP) students; eight Center for Hispanic Studies (CHS) students; and 20 graduate students.

In addition, three staff members were installed: Arthur “Andy” Bacon as provost; Richard Jostes as gift officer; and Michael Redeker as senior vice president for enrollment management.

Bacon previously served as professor of practical theology and director of curriculum assessment at Concordia Seminary, St. Louis. He retired from the Seminary in 2009. He acted as vice president for academic affairs in 2010. Bacon also served as chaplain for the U.S. Army Reserve from 1975-2007. He and his wife, Susan, have three children.

Jostes previously worked as director of development for Orphan Grain Train in Norfolk, Neb. (1997-2010). He has taught and counseled in Lutheran schools throughout the Midwest. Jostes has worked for both Concordia University Nebraska and Concordia University Chicago. He and his wife, Laura, have three children.

Redeker most recently served as pastor to St. John’s Lutheran Church in Lexington, Ky. He previously served as admissions counselor and director of admissions and ministerial recruitment at Concordia Seminary from 1998-2004. Redeker has served in many capacities for The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod, serving on several synodical committees in his career. He and his wife, Mary, have seven children.


GJ - Exactly why would a man borrow a fortune when he knows the seminary will deny him a chance to serve while loading him with debt and a useless degree?

Bruce Church investigated and laid out the facts so carefully hidden from the public.

Tuition = salaries.

Look at Mequon. They seem to have more professors than students. The same number of professors could handle twice the number of students if they didn't quit at noon each day.