Two Responses To Two Examples of Apostasy

John has left a new comment on your post "Guess Who Is Working with the New Jeske-Patterson ...":

I couldn't decide whether to reach for a tissue or a barf bag when reading what this supposedly Lutheran pastor and congregation recommend to readers of their site.

Their recommendation of churches that deny the efficacy of the Means of Grace is, in fact a statement of this pastor and congregation regarding the efficacy of the Means of Grace.

Accordingly, wouldn't anyone partnering with this pastor and congregation also be denying the efficacy of the Means of Grace?

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dkrause (http://dkrause.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Donate To the Mark Jeske Synod:Thrivent, Foundatio...":

They insult Jesus with their focus on donations (money). Jesus did not teach His disciples to go out and beg.

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GJ - Looking at The SORE, Glende's Groeschel franchise, Bethany Appleton, St. Mark Depere, Fox Valley in general,
Church and Changers running wild, and Minneapolis, no one should conclude that this is my fault.

A pastor's wife in the LCMS said she was well aware of Emergent Church apostasy in WELS. The PR flacks can promote the same old mirage for years, but people see through it. Like the puddle of water shimmering on the highway, the conservative nature of WELS disappears when approached with eyes wide open.

Pastor Never-Stood-Up-For-Anything was complaining behind my back about his reputation. If the facts seem so painful, then what would the synod slime machine feel like to Rev. Duncan Run?

The greatest damage does not come from the obviously evil parsons, like the Church and Change leaders, but from those pastors who wear the cloak of conservatism, kiss up to the apostates, and betray their fellow pastors and their members with alacrity. They will gladly feed their flock to the wolves if they can get a better position from it.

The turmoil from all those congregations listed above has come from the Rev. Do-Nothings and DP-Pleasers.

I watched the Michigan District get rid of three pastors in Toledo for daring to disagree with the official Church Growth dogma in WELS - although no one to date has admitted to that continuing error. If I have my dates right, the "conservative" John Seifert got rid of two of them. The third one had to travel to another call before he was pushed out. No one was allowed to disagree with the confessional Lutheran Valleskey (Fake-o-Bod) and remain. Bruce Becker hisself got rid of the third pastor, who was allowed to attend an ELS church but not allowed to take communion.

Ponder the enormity of the joke played on everyone. The pastor who insisted on the efficacy of the Word was excommunicated for life by Bruce Becker, who openly denies the most basic Biblical doctrine - efficacy of the Word. Meanwhile:

1. Murderer Al Just can help with a WELS youth group.
   
2. Felon Scott Zerbe is defended as "repentent." Relax, everyone is forgiven in WELS, UOJ-like, except the chosen few.
   
3. Geezer Paul Kelm gets a divine call to mislead even more college students, even though he could not start a brush fire with FUEL at The SORE.
   
4. Second Synod President Jeske is loaned out to Missouri for money-raising purposes.
   
5. Adultery earns a promotion to Mission Counselor.
   
6. Founding Church and Change is considered resume leverage for a call to the Asian board.
   
7. The Little Sect on the Prairie goes along with this, shares eagerly in the work of apostasy, and claims to be different from WELS.