Friday, January 14, 2011

He Rice Stand - WELS Can Do No Other


Jeff Gunn, WELS Emerging Church Pastor:
"Second, receive Jesus’ forgiveness.  When Jesus died on the cross, the entire world was forgiven.  That means you.  The person who repents of his sin can know beyond any shadow of a doubt that all sins are forgiven already through Jesus.  Jesus will absorb your doubt and give you assurance that your sins too are fully forgiven."

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GJ - How can anyone who supports UOJ attack Jeff Gunn on that epic devotional - He Rice Stand?

He clearly teaches UOJ Enthusiasm, just as his DP (Buchholz) does. The long line of UOJ advocates goes back through Wayne Mueller, David Valleskey, J. P. Meyer, Sig Becker.

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lance-weber (http://lance-weber.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "He Rice Stand - WELS Can Do No Other":

The long line of UOJ advocates goes back through Wayne Mueller, David Valleskey, J. P. Meyer, Sig Becker.

They sound like a secret society practicing personal forms of presumption and Gnosticism – as opposed to following the Word of God. Should it be attributed to stupidity or overbearing egos?

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GJ - I have spent many years trying to figure this out. More research is coming along to help. My tentative answer is the influence of Walther amalgamating Orthodoxy and Pietism. He also promoted a style of theology where theses were followed by justification for those grand declarations. Paul Calvin Kelm would call it upside-down theology, his primary skill.

The same blindness to the efficacy of the Word instigated Receptionism - the notion that the bread becomes the Body of Christ when received by the communicant. The often heard declaration that "we do not know the Moment of Consecration" reveals the stupefaction of Enthusiasm.

Enthusiasm begat UOJ and UOJ begat the Church Growth/Emerging Church Movement.

Church Growth will beget atheism - it already has.