Jeff Gunn, WELS Emerging Church Pastor:
"Second, receive Jesus’ forgiveness. When Jesus died on the cross, the entire world was forgiven. That means you. The person who repents of his sin can know beyond any shadow of a doubt that all sins are forgiven already through Jesus. Jesus will absorb your doubt and give you assurance that your sins too are fully forgiven."
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GJ - How can anyone who supports UOJ attack Jeff Gunn on that epic devotional - He Rice Stand?
He clearly teaches UOJ Enthusiasm, just as his DP (Buchholz) does. The long line of UOJ advocates goes back through Wayne Mueller, David Valleskey, J. P. Meyer, Sig Becker.
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The long line of UOJ advocates goes back through Wayne Mueller, David Valleskey, J. P. Meyer, Sig Becker.
They sound like a secret society practicing personal forms of presumption and Gnosticism – as opposed to following the Word of God. Should it be attributed to stupidity or overbearing egos?
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GJ - I have spent many years trying to figure this out. More research is coming along to help. My tentative answer is the influence of Walther amalgamating Orthodoxy and Pietism. He also promoted a style of theology where theses were followed by justification for those grand declarations. Paul Calvin Kelm would call it upside-down theology, his primary skill.
The same blindness to the efficacy of the Word instigated Receptionism - the notion that the bread becomes the Body of Christ when received by the communicant. The often heard declaration that "we do not know the Moment of Consecration" reveals the stupefaction of Enthusiasm.
Enthusiasm begat UOJ and UOJ begat the Church Growth/Emerging Church Movement.
Church Growth will beget atheism - it already has.
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The long line of UOJ advocates goes back through Wayne Mueller, David Valleskey, J. P. Meyer, Sig Becker.
They sound like a secret society practicing personal forms of presumption and Gnosticism – as opposed to following the Word of God. Should it be attributed to stupidity or overbearing egos?
"Church Growth will beget atheism - it already has."
I have numerous friends and acquaintances that were once strong "Evangelical Christians" who have now apostatized and are atheists. For that matter, I myself was on that doorstep more than once while being a LINO. The danger of Evangelicalism/CGism is no light matter.
They claim to be real, relevant, and relational, but they are really anything but. I echo Christ's concern regarding His Second Coming (Luke 18:8).
Right now it's a formless Christ who they worship. No defining doctrines, nothing that separates, not perfectly Just, just perfectly loving, accepting, and forgiving. "Christ Followers"
Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Unless they, by the grace and mercy of God, reject the false gospel of Objective Justification and return to the central doctrine of Justification By Faith Alone all the other issues are merely rearranging the chairs on the Titanic.
By teaching the gospel of Universalism and attempting to still have a God who condemns they then make everything else Law. To require anything more for the reward of Salvation from someone (the unbelieving world) who is already declared by God to be guilt-free, forgiven of all sin and justified (as Christ is) the requirement becomes Law. UOJ's requirement of their version of faith makes faith a matter of Law and not Gospel.
And roni rhymes with baloney.
Great Photoshop job!
How about this one from the (W)ELS. Not sure if it references coroprate structure or the Rat Pack:
"Think about whose son or daughter you are now. Your status has changed. You are a child of the Chairman of the Board of the universe! And all because he took the TIME for you."
http://www.htlc-wa.org/site/cpage.asp?sec_id=140004986&cpage_id=140014787&secure=&dlyear=0&dlcat=0
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