bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Mercy! - The LCMS Budget Is Corrupt Beyond Belief":
In the last few years two Preus sons opted for the LCC seminary at St. Catherines in Canada because it's much cheaper than Ft. Wayne, and they are still there. Students (and their wives) can stay in Canada or commute from the US which is only 15 miles away.
Here's what Daniel Preus of the Luther Academy had to say about his son who left Ft. Wayne sometime in 2008 or before. That son did not complete all four years there and didn't go into the ministry:
At the Texas Confessional Lutheran Free Conference XIX in Texas, on Sep 5, 2008, Rev. Daniel Preus told the audience at 1 hr, 3 min, and 44 seconds into the presentation (it's on MP3):
I will say this: we need more pastors...I'm a little bit sensitive to this because my son went to the seminary and couldn't afford to continue. He left. You have seminarians who are now graduating with debts of fifty to seventy thousand dollars. And I think the problem that we need to look at, which is not how many men are graduating, the problem is the church is not providing, our Missouri Synod is not providing for the education of ministerial candidates. Have I said that clearly enough? We are not taking care of the education of our ministerial candidates. And I think if one wants to give credibility to this Ablaze! movement, you would make it the first priority to cover entirely all the tuition of seminary students. And you would not make it the obligation of the seminaries to come up with the money, but that the church would do it.
Rev Daniel Preus, Luther Academy
http://www.lutheracademy.com/about-us/officers2/daniel-preus.html
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GJ -
In Ontario, even the German Lutherans end many sentences with "Eh?" Everyone drinks Molson beer there, eh?
I wonder if Missouri will end up with a group of pastors affecting the Ontario accent. The Canadians are wonderful people and their soldiers are great warriors. Too bad they are stuck with so much socialism and government control. Most of our bad American ideas are imported from Canada and Britain.
Long ago, seminary tuition was extremely low. But the schools discovered they could lay off all their costs onto student debt, using many of them as cash cows to milk while they were students, only to force them out before being able to use their degrees. I could name three men I know who fit that description, and I am not well versed in all the people run through the LCMS seminaries.
Besides that, I recall a time when people worried about having enough pastors and wanted to keep their pastor. But the "conservative" leadership, the same ones who took free educations and ran up the debts of the next generation, played games with calls and meddled in congregations. Dysfunctional members learned they could work with the DP or his hatchet-man to get rid of a pastor who offended them by preaching against adultery-or-for sound doctrine. Liars and adulterers love one another and work in perfect harmony.
Congregations and synods do not honor the pastoral office because they despise the Word. For example, the Wisconsin sect sends their graduates out consumed with righteousness through the Law. Like the Calvinists they are, the faculty members teach the men that the Word is dead on its own. The students need to make it come alive, as in real, relevant, and relational. The utter lack of action about The CORE and many clones (CrossWalk in Phoenix) proves how little SP Schroeder cares about sound doctrine when money is on the line.
For years God has been sending the ELS, WELS, and LCMS the same message, "You think money will solve your problems? I will let you have lots of money while you let your church bodies fall apart." I was not getting all anointed and becoming a prophet. Luther did that too, rephrasing passages of Scripture.
To repeat myself, half of SP Harrison's supporters voted to continue working with ELCA. Everyone knew the liberal half of Missouri would go for that, but half of the conservatives who voted to depose Kieschnick felt the same way. How can any Christian church body work with ELCA, an abortion provider and gay marriage promoter?
Any group that will work with Thrivent - that is who. Thrivent insurance is umbrella group that allows everyone to work with ELCA - and rewards them for it.
WELS is so deep into apostasy that they raise money for a heretical sect - The Salvation Army.
And no, I was not an RCMP. This is a Photoshop.
