WELS church lady has left a new comment on your post "Robert Preus - Justification and Rome":
"The whole world is saved, just not heaven saved."
Now tell me which Bible translation is the above quote found? He who does not believe will be condemned! "Mishmash" was the term used by DP Buccholz. He called both Becker and Myers Justification teachings a mishmash. "Somebody" talked the DP into writing the essay.(more like coercion). I motion that the DP write a new paper. "Through faith in Jesus."
My pastor quoted, "Through faith in Jesus" several times during a funeral. When pastors preach the Word as written, there is no room for UOJ garbage.
I would like to see how far one gets with the fourth Kokomo statement being used in a WELS funeral sermon. Kretzmann did not teach UOJ. Fuerbringer did not teach UOJ. J.T. Mueller did not teach it in his "My Church and Others." However, Mueller did use the term "objective justification" in his 1934 Dogmatics. When writing the Dogmatics, he used Franz Pieper as a source! I still do not understand where Pieper came up will forgiveness without faith. Faith is required, Pieper said it is not required. Faith is implanted by the Holy Spirit.(from hearing the Word) Even the BOC says that faith is needed.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "WELS Church Lady Unloads on UOJ":
WELS Church Lady,
I understand and am glad you know I'm not trying to dismantle your comment. Your disgust and righteous anger is, in my opinion, appropriate to the severity of the problem and overall situation.
While reading Kretzmann, I also saw mainly faithful confession concerning the doctrine of Justification. His nod to UOJ may have simply been a mistake due to other factors than direct intention. This is another lesson for us. Many people today will read false doctrine and say, "but it can be understood correctly if..." All the while they allow the false teaching to exist and future generations only see the false teaching and without a Berean effort using the foundation of Scripture and the Confessions, they fall to such false doctrines.
You're right there is nothing in the BOC to support UOJ. Anyone, including Buchholz and Schroeder who point to the Ministry of the Keys as proof are blatant deceivers and not only mock and blaspheme Christ but also His Church who have the BOC and can plainly see that the assurance of the forgiveness of sins is only given to those who confess faith in Christ. Payment for sins, Christ as Mediator, is not the same as our obtaining Christ as Mediator, for the remission of sins. Christ is only obtained as Mediator through faith worked graciously by the Holy Ghost through God's Word in the Means of Grace.
Like identifying Kretzmann's error, it will be good if everyone calls it like it is and not as they would like it to be. Then, maybe, the clergy would begin to proof read their own writings and hold their tongues in an effort to ensure pure doctrine is taught and right practices are advanced.
