Wednesday, March 16, 2011

Prayed with a Priest and a Rabbi?
But What Is the Punchline?

A man for all synods (except the ELS) and for all religions.


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J-762
Here are the top ten areas of our ministries in which I would like to see changed.
1. Myself. I trust God too little...
2. We don't prize our synod and our ministry relationships enough... Our called workers at 2929 will tell you that they take a lot more abuse than encouragement.
3. We need to loosen up.... Our public worship/praise/prayer style seems stiff, overly formal, unemotional, smotheringly doctrinal. I personally do not think that our synod in general has a good balance of head & heart in our worship life. There. I said it.
4. Our schools are not being fully utilized to draw unchurched people into the fellowship.
5. We need to love cities more.
6. We need to welcome diversity, prize new racial groups and the cultural and ministry treasures that they bring. New people groups coming in to the WELS will not pollute our "pure" (quotation marks in the original) Lutheran practices. but enrich them.
7. We need a little more sanity and calm in our discussions of church fellowship. Things I can't stand:
· Assigning a seminary professor a paper and then letting all applications and conclusions become canon law instead of each of us getting into Word [sic] personally.
· Passing off crude oversimplification as WELS canon law, such as, "You can't pray with anybody who is not WELS," or "if anyone rejects a clear word of God, he is in rebellion against the most High God and you can't be sure that he/she is really saved.
· We have a very highly developed sense of what we can't do with other Christians, to the point that it is safer to have nothing to do with other Christians. We lack the positive side of dealing with other Christians in practical ways.

8. I think we need a little more sanity in dealing with men/women role issues in the church... sometimes the WELS position is described as asserting male headship in all relationships: in family, church and society. Scripture speaks only of the first two areas, and so should we.
9. We need to declare a moratorium on negative comments about public schools. It is possible to be proud of our WELS system without running down Milwaukee Public Schools. There are many wonderful educational programs and innovations happening in MPS that we would do well to study and learn from.
10. There is a price that we have paid for our unity of practice in the WELS, and that is we have only each other as ministry models. We have many weak areas of ministry, such as in cities, and need to get around more to learn from other successful ministries even if they're not WELS. It is not helpful if our attempts to learn from other Christians is ridiculed as "sitting at the feet of the Reformed" or "capitulating to the papacy.”

Remarks delivered at a conference on March 3, 2000 by Rev. Mark Jeske, vice-president of WELS' Southeastern Wisconsin District.

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At some big civic occasion in Milwaukee a few years back, he was one of the “preachers” invited to do an invocation or something. The mayor was up on the dais with Jeske, another preacher of some sort, a Roman priest, and a Jewish rabbi, and maybe even others (kinda sounds like the beginning of a bad joke, huh!?). Anyway, they all – including Jeske – did some spiritual foofaraw of some sort. It was in the Journal/Sentinel, and some made a big stink about it, and DP Dave actually had to strip Mark of his District VP job. Of course, he did so by asking nicely, and Mark had so many other things on his plate that he didn’t mind. And I believe when it was announced to the District, the joint prayer was NOT given as the reason.

Maybe the story is still in the newspaper archives.

6 comments:

grumpy said...

You should willingly become a slave to the political state...I remember that inspiring video...no, the political state won't abuse you once you submit those hard won political freedoms...they will give them back once the situation becomes "normal" again.

Can you imagine if God allowed the same tribulations hitting Japan to hit the United States? How would our spiritual (WELS?) leaders react in such a crisis?

Points to ponder...

Grumpy "getting negative" Lutheran

Narrow-minded Lutheran said...

How many WELS people shook their heads in shame at Benke's unionistic and syncretistic Yankee Stadium performance? This is not to say that WELS is worse than Missouri, but they're no better; yet, many WELS people puff out their chests with pride while putting down the heterodox LCMS. They are just two peas in the ecumenistic Thrivent pod.

Also, I saw no mention of Word and Sacrament in the above "wish list." May I use the new vocab word, Methobapticostal, since the historical Lutheran liturgy is, "stiff, overly formal, unemotional, smotheringly doctrinal?" And there's that head vs. heart deal again. This is too sad to laugh at.

Joseph Schmidt said...

I could not find the article you're referencing in the JSOnline.com archives. Any idea what time period this was from?

Brett Meyer said...

Jeske's dual official fellowship with LCMS and (W)ELS is keeping him busy even with his hatred of all things "smotheringly doctrinal".

Wels kingdom workers convention

You are invited to the 12th Biennial WKW Convention, Equip to Serve, April 1-2, 2011, at ChristLutheranChurch, Pewaukee, Wis... Rev. Mark Jeske will open the convention and Dr. Dan Johnson, WLC President, will also address the convention. Register at www.WELSKingdomWorkers.org today!

http://www.pilgrimonline.net/

As an aside, the (W)ELS church linked above has a very socialist new age promotion of caring for children.
You are cordially invited to
“It Takes a Village…”
A dinner and silent auction celebrating God’s children

AC V said...

The gospel according to Packers player Greg Jennings at St. Marcus Lutheran Church, Milwaukee, WI:

http://bcove.me/aqtnd02w

AC V said...

Summary of Greg Jennings message "preached" in a Lutheran church in the same place Rev. Mark Jeske preaches on "Time of Grace" TV:

"I truly believe that if you put forth the time and the effort and the passion, you can become and do whatever you want."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/135108688.html

Jesus had a lot of passion. It got him crucified. (Thank God.)