The UOJ posting giants at LutherQueasy deny the efficacy of the Word and ignore the final theological work of Robert Preus. The first item shows their ignorance and blasphemy; the second their lack of discernment. But discernment is a gift of the Holy Spirit, whose work they treat with contempt. Therefore, the Holy Spirit blinds their eyes and hardens their hearts as they strive to prove Knapp correct and St. Paul wrong.
Herman Otten's covert leaker, Pope Paul the Unlearned, started a thread on Bethany which sputtered to a stop.
What keeps Holy Communion from being a sacrament?
- WELS has vicars consecrate.
- WELS had women consecrating the elements, but that was put on hold. People are not ready for that...yet.
- WELS and Missouri have had laymen consecrate, due to a lack of pastors available.
- WELS, Missouri, and the LIttle Sect have argued that the elements are not consecrated until they are received by the communicant. That means women, men, and teens are consecrating by the act of receiving. The Syn Conference also argues, "We do not know when the elements are consecrated," which means they reject the efficacy of the Word.
- WELS has distributed the elements without consecrating them, proving that those involved do not believe in the efficacy of the Word.
- If a large crowd comes to church and communes, with some of them in an adjacent overflow room, listening on a speaker, are they receiving the consecrated elements?
- If the overflow room is the fellowship hall in the basement, are they communing properly?
- At a whale congregation, where hundreds come forward to communion, has everyone been examined, face-to-face, before the service? Has anyone?
- At a whale congregation, do the pastors know that every single person coming forward is a member of the congregation and in agreement with the Book of Concord? Because the UOJ pastors are not!
- If laymen take communion to the shut-ins, do they consecrate? Do the pastors consecrate before the trip, observing the Catholic reservation of the host?
- If the congregation runs out of consecrated elements, are they brought in and distributed without a new consecration? What is the exact distanced needed for the elements to be non-consecrated? Is the sacristy close enough or too far? What if the cupboard doors are closed?
- If the pastor is a blasphemer (as all UOJ Stormtroopers are), is the consecration valid? Or, do they think that someone who believes in the efficacy of the Word cannot properly offer Holy Communion?
- Is the woman pastor at Latte
LutheranChurch, the "minister of worship" there, consecrating? Is that valid if she is?
- ELCA seminary students, women, bragged in their annual report that they consecrated and baptized at the LCMS congregations where they were hired. Were those sacraments valid? I asked Pope Paul the Unlearned about this, in his plush Purple Palace office, but he refused to accept the facts or deal with them.
The efficacious Word of God consecrates the elements. We set up our Ustream service, like the teleconference services before, simply for our own members. Bethany does not practice or advocate open communion, unlike some in the WELS (the mission board), ELS (Jay Webber), Missouri, and ELCA (everyone).
One of the dunces on LutherQueasy tried to claim that I was unsupervised, did whatever I wanted. What I teach and do is under the supervision of the congregational members. We discuss many things. In fact, I value their help in all my publications. I get immediate responses after the services.
I do not spend time posting on other websites, discussing someone else's ministry. I find it bizarre that someone without a call and without an education would do so, without even asking. Such ignorant truculence has a way of betraying itself.