Friday, July 1, 2011

Time of Grace Supporters Just Happen To Be
Church and Change Leaders.
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Pro-ToG Memorial:

Unpublished Memorial (2011-07U)
Subject: Time of Grace Ministry
Floor Committee #21

WHEREAS 1) Time of Grace was formed by a group of WELS laymen and clergy to utilize the
medium of television to present law and gospel; and
WHEREAS 2) Time of Grace is viewed weekly in many American markets and globally by satellite
broadcast and over the Internet; and

WHEREAS 3) WELS members in the armed services, including those in combats zones, together
with WELS college students, the aged and infirmed, and other WELS members unable to attend their own church, through Time of Grace have daily or weekly access to sermons and devotions thus sustaining and strengthening their faith and trust in the living Lord; and
WHEREAS 4) WELS parents, spouses, and loved ones of those who are physically unable to attend
a WELS worship service are sincerely appreciative that Time of Grace devotions are available for their loved ones; and
WHEREAS 5) In addition to the thousands of WELS members, there are tens of thousands of non-
WELS viewers who hear pure scripture-based presentations of law and gospel; therefore be it
Resolved, a) that the Synod in convention acknowledge, thank, and encourage Time of Grace to
continue in its ministry for the edification of WELS members and the spreading of the pure gospel message to thousands of others; and be it finally
Resolved, b) that the Synod in Convention encourage congregations to publicize and utilize Time
of Grace broadcasts, internet site, and other materials as a supplement to their regular worship and study of God’s holy word, especially to their members who can’t attend their congregation’s worship services and Bible studies.

Rev. Mark J. Cares
Mr. Thomas C. Walters
Rev. Harold J. Hagedorn
Mr. Robert L. Timmermann
Mr. Paul D. Rosenow
Mr. Daniel L. Kunz
Rev. Matthew J. Zimpelmann
Mr. John W. Tappe
Mr. Warren D. Ehlke
Mr. Dennis E. Walters
Mr. Mark A. Wrightsman
Dr. Scott A. Gostchock
Mr. Merle D. Blum
Mr. Paul L. Kunz
Rev. Howard O. Mohlke
Mr. James W. Freer
Rev. John P. Huebner
Rev. James A. Aderman
Rev. Matthew Doebler
Mr. and Mrs. Carl E. Pagel
Rev. John Parlow
Rev. David C. Pagel
Rev. Steven L. Witte
Rev. Joel W. Schwartz
Rev. Larry G. Zwieg
Rev. James R. Sonnemann
Mr. Roger J. Jeffery
Mr. Jeffery P. Davis
Rev. Ronald V. Ash
Dr. and Mrs. Rick E. Klug
Rev. Wayne I. Schulz
Rev. Raymond Kimbrough
Rev. and Mrs. James G. Witt III
Rev. Keith C. Tullberg
Rev. John M. Graf
Mr. Thomas H. DeWitz
Rev. Donald W. Patterson
Dr. Donald A. Whitlock
Mr. Gregory P. Naumann
Rev. Mark A. Cordes
Rev. Daniel J. Rautenberg
Rev. Michael G. Geiger
Rev. Robert J. Gurgel
Rev. Frederick J. Guldberg
Rev. Paul S. Soukup
Rev. Bill F. Limmer
Rev. Christian J. Winkel
Peter Dorn
Carl Lemke
Rev. John Lawrenz

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ToG, the face of the WELS brand of Lutheranism: A gown-less, sacrament-less, Dr. Phil-like motivational speaker. "Click here to purchase now."

WELS readers, get ready for your future pastors to come into your congregations in the same way. They already are.

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"In addition to the thousands of WELS members, there are tens of thousands of non-
WELS viewers who hear pure scripture-based presentations of law and gospel;"

I watched recently...what verse in the Bible is pre-forgiven in again?

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GJ - Readers can look over the list above and count how many people deny being Church and Changers - like Don Patterson - yet turn up always supporting the Church and Change agenda.

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 This is the link.

Synod Convention Memorial - Time of Grace

Memorial to the Synod in Convention Re: Time of Grace Ministry
Whereas (1) Time of Grace Ministry has actively sought and obtained the status of a Recognized Service Organization (RSO) from the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod (LCMS); and
Whereas (2) Time of Grace is listed in the Yearbook of the LCMS as a Recognized Service Organization; and
Whereas (3) Leaders and representatives from Time of Grace regularly appear at LCMS events and congregations to promote the ministry of Time of Grace; and
Whereas (4) The administrative board of Time of Grace includes at least one member of the LCMS; and
Whereas (5) The LCMS, according to its official bylaws and policies, considers its RSOs to be “valued partners of the LCMS,” views the services of its RSOs as “a profound extension of the LCMS’ mission and ministry,” and expects its RSOs to “respect and not act contrary to the doctrine and practice of the Synod” and to “foster the mission and ministry of the Synod and engage in program activity that is in harmony with the programs of the boards of the Synod;” and
Whereas (6) An organization cannot truthfully and honestly carry out joint mission and ministry with two synods that are not in fellowship with one another, pretending to “walk together” with both; and
Whereas (7) The practices of Time of Grace are examples of the very unionism over which the bond of church fellowship between the WELS and the LCMS was formally severed in 1961; and
Whereas (8) The speaker and chief writer for Time of Grace is Pastor Mark Jeske, who with his congregation, St. Marcus Evangelical Lutheran Church of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, is a member of the WELS; and
Whereas (9) Time of Grace maintains that it is not affiliated with any denomination or part of any denominational structure; and
Whereas (10) Such an arrangement implies that it is possible to be a member of the WELS while leading a religious organization which will confess no denominational ties; and
Whereas (11) Time of Grace has established a presence in most (if not all) of the Twelve Districts of the WELS; and
Whereas (12) Time of Grace has pursued the introduction of its services and ministry into the world mission fields of the WELS; and
Whereas (13) Scripture instructs us to present a clear confession of our doctrine and practice and to affiliate ourselves only with those church bodies whose doctrine and practice conform to the entirety of God’s Word (Romans 16:17; 1 Timothy 4:16); and
Whereas (14) The Southeastern Wisconsin District presidium is charged with oversight of doctrine and practice of the pastors, teachers, congregations and other entities of our fellowship within its district; and
Whereas (15) Time of Grace has not provided to the Southeastern Wisconsin District presidium documentation from the LCMS regarding the non-RSO status of Time of Grace; and
Whereas (16) The Southeastern Wisconsin District presidium, in two years of dealing with Time of Grace, has been unable to convince Time of Grace of the need to withdraw its RSO status or change its unionistic practices; therefore be it
RESOLVED (a) That the Synod in convention recognize Time of Grace’s relationship with the LCMS as unionistic, confessionally unclear, and therefore unscriptural; and be it finally RESOLVED (b) That the Synod in convention encourage the presidium of the Southeastern Wisconsin District to take immediate measures of loving Christian discipline toward Time of Grace and its leaders, calling on them to terminate their LCMS RSO status and to return to biblical practices and a clear confession regarding their walk together with the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod. 
Mr. Mark Bannan - Salem, Owosso, MI 
Rev. Thomas J. Bernthal - Peace, Sahuarita, AZ 
Rev. Theodore G. Bodjanac - Resurrection, Phoenix, AZ 
Rev. John F. Boehringer - St. John's, Watertown, WI 
Rev. Luke Boehringer - Gethsemane, Davenport, IA 
Rev. Jon D. Buchholz - Emmanuel, Tempe, AZ 
Rev. Johann Caauwe - Trinity, El Paso, TX 
Rev. Michael T. Carr - St. Peter, Clovis, CA Prof. (em) 
Daniel Deutschlander - St. Mark's, Watertown, WI
Rev. Rodney E. Dietsche - Peace, Green Lake, WI
Rev. Christopher S. Doerr - Grace, Waupun, WI
Rev. Ross Else - Emmaus, Phoenix, AZ
Rev. Paul C. Fetzer - St. John's, Clare, MI
Rev. Thomas Fischer - Loving Shepherd, Milwaukee, WI
Rev. Lester G. Fritz - Zion, Van Dyne, WI Michael Hefti - Faith, Radcliff, KY
Rev. Roy W. Hefti - St. Paul's, Bangor, WI
Rev. Stephen Hein - Christ, Prescott Valley, AZ
Mr. Kenneth S. Jamka - Trinity, Sierra Vista, AZ
Mr. Kurt W. Knurr - Trinity, Sierra Vista, AZ
Rev. Ronald G. Koehler, III - Grace, Tucson, AZ
Rev. John R. Koester - Trinity, Temple, TX
Rev. Robert Koester - NPH, Milwaukee, WI
Rev. Roger L. Kuerth - St. Luke, Watertown, WI
Rev. Paul J. Lidtke - Bethlehem, Oshkosh, WI
Mr. Harold I. Mears - Emmaus, Phoenix, AZ
Mr. Kevin Needham - St. Paul's, Saginaw, MI
Rev. David A. Nottling - St. John, Fox Lake, WI
Rev. Mark D. Ochsankehl - Trinity, Winslow, AZ
Rev. Aaron Odya - St. Peter's, Eldorado, WI
Rev. David J. Salinas - St. John, Victorville, CA
Rev. Paul Schaefer - St. Peter's, Plymouth, MI
Rev. Neal Schroeder - Divine Peace, Renton, WA
Rev. Paul Schulz - Grace, Safford, AZ
Rev. David R. Seager - Loving Shepherd, Milwaukee, WI
Rev. Gregory Sluke - Trinity, Redgranite, WI
Rev. James Strand - St. Paul, Bloomer, WI
Rev. Johnold J. Strey - St. Mark, Citrus Heights, CA
Rev. Jeffrey W. Suhr - St. John, Appleton, WI
Rev. Donald Swartz - Mt. Olive, Monroe, WI
Rev. Benjamin Tomczak - St. Mark, Duncanville, TX
Rev. Clayton G. Welch - Faith, River Falls, WI
* Required


If you are on Jeske's bus, you have job security.
If you are not on his bus, you will soon be washing the tread marks from your face.

10 comments:

AC V said...

ToG, the face of the WELS brand of Lutheranism: A gown-less, sacrament-less, Dr. Phil-like motivational speaker. "Click here to purchase now."

WELS readers, get ready for your future pastors to come into your congregations in the same way. They already are.

AC V said...

Mixed blessing: To the best of my knowledge, ToG nowhere mentions in its publications or broadcasts that it is affiliated with WELS.

LutherRocks said...

"In addition to the thousands of WELS members, there are tens of thousands of non-
WELS viewers who hear pure scripture-based presentations of law and gospel;"

I watched recently...what verse in the Bible is pre-forgiven in again?

WELS church lady said...

Whereas 1) Time of Grace is part of the new Theology of Civil Submission(aka a government entity!)

Whereas 2) TOG creator/board member Bruce Eberle is a Washington area neo-con moneyman and direct marketing fund raiser. Guess who raised money for the Paula Jones lawsuit? "Mr. Eberle, please explain about the Al Gore-Voting Machine Fraud."

Whereas 3) Tom Baxter(TOG board member) is the Pentagon(that's right...PENTAGON) Television Division Chief. Need I say that the Pentagon is in Arlington Virginia?(Washington area)

Whereas 4) The signers of this memorial are church growth enthusists who care more about money and less about Confessional Luthernism

Resolved 1) "Mark Jeske, I refuse to be a slave of the government." In the World Faith Movement there is no room for titles such as Lutheran.

Resolved 2) WELS does not need government liasons. This is an evil ploy to creat a New Age platform in our beloved synod. Money will not save us. There is no salvation outside of Christ crusified!

Resolved 3) We are not enslaved puppets for the governments pleasure. If you think that the role of the Army is to protect us from outside invaders, then you are mistaken. Wake up sheeple!

Resolved 4) Don Patterson? I hope that you NEVER become president of our district. Your treatment of Joe was horrid. The good people in your congregation deserve the truth. Why do you associate with Mark Jeske? Parlow and Limmer have been involved with Willow Creek teachings. My pastor spoke against the teachings of Bill Hybols. Matt Doebler, Jeff Gunn, Tim Glende, and Ski of The Core are sad creations of these older Church and Change gurus. These younger C&C pastors are the real victims. I pray that with the Lords help someone can rescue these young pastors and our synod.

In Christ,
Rebecca

christfocused said...

Missed a few names in the article... there are about 90 signatures on the anti-TOG memorial.

Gregory L. Jackson said...

Send the ones I missed, and I will add them.

AC V said...

Anti-ToG supporters, be careful what you wish for. Bethesda must be next:

Bethesda Lutheran Communities - Church Affiliation

Bethesda is a Lutheran human care ministry that maintains close and friendly ties with all the Lutheran churches.

We are independent of ecclesiastical control, yet grateful for a history of generous and visionary support from all the Lutheran "synods".

Bethesda is a Recognized Service Organization (RSO) of The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod.

http://bethesdalutherancommunities.org/page.aspx?pid=548

Board of Directors

Members of the corporation elect the board. Corporate membership is open to adults who belong to congregations affiliated with the Missouri Synod, Wisconsin Synod or Evangelical Lutheran Synod. Members of other Lutheran church bodies may become Friends of Bethesda. This entitles them to a non-voting voice at the annual meeting.

http://bethesdalutherancommunities.org/page.aspx?pid=581

WELS "Unit Concept" of fellowship demands that you protest Bethesda, too. Good luck with that.

Gregory L. Jackson said...

Fellowship with ELCA does not count, so why get Geneva gowns in a bunch over Missouri?

This is another way to avoid real issues. Jeske stopped being a Lutheran a long time ago. He and his mini-sect are Emergent Church.

AC V said...

Lutheran Radio Church Service

"The Lutheran Radio Church Service is a radio broadcast program structured in the form of a liturgically-based Lutheran church service. Under the auspices of The Radio Committee, this program is a collaboration of Milwaukee-area churches of the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod (LCMS)and Milwaukee-area churches of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS)."

http://www.lutheranrcs.com/Home/tabid/55/Default.aspx

Where's the outcry/memorial!!!??? WELS Unit Concept of fellowship:

"...all joint expressions and demonstrations of a common Christian faith—call them church fellowship or by any other term (collaboration?)—are essentially one, that they involve a unit concept, and that they are therefore all [also prayer] governed by one set of principles"(Proceedings, 1959, p. 165).

http://www.wels.net/about-wels/doctrinal-statements/church-fellowship

AC V said...

Bethesda Lutheran Communities - Partner Congregations:

St. John Lutheran Church, Wauwatosa WI - Pastor: Rev. Joel Leyrer, also 2nd vice-president of WELS SE Wisconsin District.

http://bethesdalutherancommunities.org/page.aspx?pid=665

"Bethesda is a Lutheran human care ministry that maintains close and friendly ties with all the Lutheran churches."

"Bethesda is a Recognized Service Organization (RSO) of The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod."

"...all joint expressions and demonstrations of a common Christian faith—call them church fellowship or by any other term ("partner congregations"? "close and friendly ties"?)—are essentially one, that they involve a unit concept, and that they are therefore all [also prayer] governed by one set of principles"(Proceedings, 1959, p. 165). - WELS "Unit Concept" of fellowship.