I personally don’t care for Ichabod’s theology. By providing the link that you want zapped, I wanted to highlight how silly it is for pastors to engage in personal attacks. It alienates the laymen, and it does nothing to solve the ongoing problems within the LCMS.
The LCMS should carefully consider Jackson’s analysis of seminary education:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2011/05/lutheran-seminary-fraud-students-are.html
http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=15546
Lutheran Seminary Fraud
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GJ - First of all, the seminary tuition analysis has been provided by someone else, who has carefully compiled the information. Anyone wanting to attend a Missouri seminary should inform himself first about costs and his graduation present - "No call for you. Pay your $50,000 student loan."
Secondly, the response about getting rid of the link is interesting. If they read something they do not like, they want to keep everyone else from finding out.
McCain promised to give everyone a vacation from his vapid, bitter comments, but he is all over ALPB, Steadfast Lutherans, and who knows what other websites.
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Rev. Paul McCain:
August 17th, 2011 at 19:02 | #4 Reply | Quote I wonder if Pastor Rossow is at all concerned about how stupid the comments posted here by “Mames” and “Carl Vehse” make Brothers of John the Steadfast look?
Guess not.
Mames:
August 17th, 2011 at 21:23 | #8 Reply | Quote @Rev. Paul T. McCain #4 who are you and why do you ridicule valid concerns. We have our confessions and many with collars ignore it and NOTHING is done about it. We have seen how futile it is to wait for clergy to fix things. It will take “stupid” lay confessionals to do the job.
Ghastly representation for Concordia Publishing House from McCain!
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Rev. Paul McCain:
August 17th, 2011 at 19:02 | #4 Reply | Quote I wonder if Pastor Rossow is at all concerned about how stupid the comments posted here by “Mames” and “Carl Vehse” make Brothers of John the Steadfast look?
Guess not.
Mames:
August 17th, 2011 at 21:23 | #8 Reply | Quote @Rev. Paul T. McCain #4 who are you and why do you ridicule valid concerns. We have our confessions and many with collars ignore it and NOTHING is done about it. We have seen how futile it is to wait for clergy to fix things. It will take “stupid” lay confessionals to do the job.
Ghastly representation for Concordia Publishing House from McCain!
Helen responded to Wallenstein on the seminary issue on Steadfast Lutherans:
Wallenstein wrote:
August 17th, 2011 at 22:13 | #13 Reply | Quote
@mbw #10
I personally don’t care for Ichabod’s theology. By providing the link that you want zapped, I wanted to highlight how silly it is for pastors to engage in personal attacks. It alienates the laymen, and it does nothing to solve the ongoing problems within the LCMS.
The LCMS should carefully consider Jackson’s analysis of seminary education:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2011/05/lutheran-seminary-fraud-students-are.html
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Helen wrote:
August 18th, 2011 at 10:53 | #24 Reply | Quote
@Rev. Paul T. McCain #15
Obviously BJS is free to do whatever it wants, but there you go.
PTM:
If this site was moderated in the way yours is, they’d have to put a permanent “junk” designation on your address! Retroactively, as you do! You aren’t the moderator here.
Give it a rest!
@Wallenstein #13
The LCMS should carefully consider Jackson’s analysis of seminary education:
No, I don’t think so! Buckley wrote God and man at Yale in 1951.
Religion was a farce at Yale then already.
So CTS/CSL may cost the students too much. [They are, as Jackson obliquely pointed out, getting a much more than average education for their money.] How much are their congregations contributing to alleviate that problem? How much is your congregation giving? How much are you ponying up?
What costs the synod too much are all the half trained “licensed lay ministers”. That works for a willowcreek agenda; it would probably do for the elca which doesn’t believe anything anyway.
It’s not good enough for a confessional Lutheran synod.
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What's great about money matters as they relate to the seminaries is that while the administrations of the synods and seminaries might refuse to talk about it, the money issue continues to take its toll unabated. So while both Ft. Wayne and St. Louis and their alumni are all determined to stay open forever, and Mequon is determined to stay on its stand-alone campus, their financial foundation erodes from underneath their castles. Moreover, they collectively have fewer students due to tuition costs--too few student to justify their overly robust campuses. Even the amount of land each seminary has is too much, and takes too much money to tend. Their campuses are large enough that they could be fenced in and become game reserves or game parks.
Links to related posts in the comments section here:
Judgment Day Approaches for the LCMS Seminaries, August 4, 2011:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2011/08/judgment-day-approaches-for-lcms.html
Links to related posts in the comments section here:
Judgment Day Approaches for the LCMS Seminaries, August 4, 2011:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2011/08/judgment-day-approaches-for-lcms.html
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