Head Elder has left a new comment on your post "Wisconsin Synod President Claims Uncertainty 48 Ho...":
WARNING to the WELS:
It's time for us all to revisit the slippery slope. Notice - you are all on it.
Criminal facts are not gossip and attempts to call them gossip are only meant to deflect from the truth.
Continually stating the obvious that we are all sinful is an attempt to deflect sin itself. Also statements of "who are we to judge and don't judge until you walk in other people's shoes," are contemptuous to God's Words and warnings.
- If you see a crime being committed and you do nothing and use the excuse "who are you to judge, you are as guilty as the person committing crime.
- If you really believe in the "who are you to judge" philosophy -
- then hire a pedophile as a babysitter.
- Since - who are you to judge.
If you are a member of the WELS for the warm fuzzy of the Gospel and you ignore the law, you might think about changing churches. Since there are many church denominations that run solely on "Who am I to Judge" and "you can't walk in their shoes" and "everyone should love and forgive everyone regardless", even the unrepentant. You should have no problem finding that kind of church.
God's Word is absolute and clear.
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GJ - Two teens in my Michigan congregation died, struck down by drunk drivers. One was just recovering from his personal problems. The young woman was becoming a champion swimmer, the pride of her family.
A local WELS pastor was so drunk that he piled his car into a utility pole, injuring himself and the pole. I asked who it was. That was a secret, the circuit pastor said. Nothing was done. I had already asked the responsible people to help an obvious out-of-control situation. The lack of concern for this person's family was quite disturbing. I did what I could, and that was used against me.
Covering up for the guilty is doubly wrong when fake severity is used to get rid of laity and pastors.
The message of WELS has been - "The bigger the crime, the more we will cover for you, if you remain faithful to Holy Mother Synod."
No wonder Wisconsin Lutheran College invited Roman Catholic archbishop Weakland to lecture to them. He was a deviant who blamed child molestation on the children, had an affair with a young man, and embezzled church funds to pay blackmail to his lover.
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SuzieQ has left a new comment on your post "Wisconsin Synod President Claims Uncertainty 48 Ho...":
Synod President the Rev. Mark Schroeder issued a brief statement "praying for all who have been affected by the events"
Why not say who those souls are? Children forced into sexual bondage to be sexually abused and used in terrible ways. Souls he should care about and want to help, not sweep under a rug.
Why was it allowed into the Synod offices? They are all very learned men - they often say so. They know the Devil exists. So why not stop the temptation as other schools and businesses do?
Every Sunday I listen to how I was born sinful and need to examine myself daily. Do you think they might apply this to the Synod Headquarters?
I hope Joel Hochmuth the ex-communications director has opened wide the door for the FBI to come in and do a clean sweep of the whole Synod.
Begin honoring your positions and stop allowing students to post videos feigning homosexuality online. It's not funny. It's disrespectful and harmful to other people. It's not acceptable behavior for our future Pastors and teachers.
Quit talking out of both sides of your mouths and act accordingly. If you can't do it with Jesus sitting in front of you DON'T DO IT!
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SolaSister has left a new comment on your post "Warning to the WELS - From Head Elder and SusieQ":
I couldn't say a louder AMEN to this post. As refugees from the WELS and LCMS both, we became sick to the teeth about hearing the "Good news of God's Luv" without a solitary word about hell, judgment and the wrath to come. (Why we need the Gospel in the first place.) Sermons were a joke. Literally. At St. John's Lutheran, Wauwatosa, home to numerous seminary faculty, our family of 7 were treated to a sermon still joked about today. It was centered around Green Eggs and Ham, written by the great theologian, Dr. Seuss. My children began laughing quietly until the whole pew was shaking. We never went back. The insult of climbing into that venerable old pulpit and giving us Dr. Seuss about says it all. Pale, ineffectual, passionless men in skirts--having a form of godliness, but with zero power.
We are familiar with the church that Mr. Hochmuth attends. It was the first church we visited when moving to Waukesha a few years ago. We were interested in their school also for our children. We walked in and were greeted with the sight of a drum set. Bad sign. We looked at the worship folder to learn that one of the hymns was Bette Midler's, You are the Wind Beneath My Wings. We got up and walked out. Trinity Lutheran is afflicted with the same disease as all the other Lutheran churches. It's all grace and not a word about the law. So parishioners in these churches are increasingly lawless. I could go on for hours. I weep over this. Our children have been harmed by this spiritually. Imagine laughing at the content of a sermon. Welcome to the WELS and the LCMS.
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GJ - Faithful pastors and laity in the Olde Synodical Conference have to listen to snide comments about the Means of Grace liturgy, the "boring and irrelevant" Book of Concord, and real sermons.
One WELS pastor said, "It is very difficult to be in ..." I could name the place, but fill in the blank. One pastor told me he is the only one who is NOT a Shrinker at his meetings.
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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Warning to the WELS - From Head Elder and SusieQ":
I am not convinced that this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back for the WELS. As those who have posted have said, there really is not any condemnation from the Law taking place from official synod mouthpieces. There seems to be this veiled denial as if to say, "there must be some sort of misunderstanding".
Law enforcement and prosecutors are certainly capable of making mistakes. However, there are also trained not to move forward unless they are fairly certain that an arrest will not end up in an easy acquittal. Most cases end with a plea bargain. Even if it is all just a big mistake, law enforcement will never admit to a mistake for fear of reprisal and loss of credibility.
The images and videos seized are enumerated. Whether you like sting operations or not, it has been developed into case law and it would be highly unlikely that the charges would be dropped on a technicality.
As has been pointed out here on Ichabod, there is this sentiment within the WELS that those who are on the payroll are above reproach.
Facts are stubborn things. It may also be that so many within the WELS want to be part of something bigger, that being the synod. Just look at how the synod minders get all worked up in a lather over the smallest of criticisms. This is how die-hard sports fans behave about their favorite team. An example would be how nutty Packer fans can act in public.
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