Friday, February 17, 2012

Not Impressed with the LCMS/WELS Public Relations Blitz.
They Still Work with ELCA through LWR and Thrivent


My Facebook post: "LCMS members and pastors - if you dislike the Obama agenda, why continue to work with ELCA? Testimony before Congress is meaningless when actions speak louder than words. ELCA, WELS, and Missouri are so inter-twined that they are really one church body. Don't blame Obama for that."


A string of denials followed, including this from David Peters, from Union Grove (Issues in WELS).

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Rev. David G. Peters Sorry, Greg. Your hyperbole goes too far this time. WELS is in no way one body with the LCMS - much less the ELCA. If you're going to stipuate (sic) such things in this semi-public forum, you can only preserve your credibility by setting forth the evidence here as well. I doubt that many of your Facebook friends believe that this is the forum for such a tasteless task, so let's demonstrate Christian charity here, okay? - Your friend in Christ, David G. David Peters

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GJ - I followed with a number of links to show how WELS and Missouri have been working with ELCA for decades.

LCMS shock came as a surprise to me, because the same convention that voted in Matt Harrison also voted overwhelmingly to continue working with ELCA.

Five minutes with Google will show that Thrivent is the Umbrella Lutheran Church that unites all the synods by giving them money to market their products. SP Harrison admitted last year, at Emmaus, to receiving some $50 million a year from Thrivent.

All the money goes into one pot, Thrivent's, and the insurance company doles out liberally to ELCA. When there are joint ministry projects with WELS, LCMS, and ELCA, it is always on ELCA's terms.

The real testimony is what WELS and Missouri do with ELCA, not what they claim in a cameo appearance in DC.

All three have worked with Lutheran World Relieve for decades.

The Synod Presidents are only too happy to shun someone who tells the truth about their fellowship with ELCA, but they will never shun ELCA.

"Greg's telling the truth.
Call us anything you want,
but meet us at the next Thrivent gathering.
And support LWR with your prayers and offerings."