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Friday, March 30, 2012
A Wonderful Unanimity among the Apostates.
All Celebrate Their Guilt-Free Zones,
Until They Extend the Left Foot of Fellowship
bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Children of the Heavenly Father":
UOJ leads to people with over-assured consciences, and that often leads to libertine behavior. Here LCMS Rev. Clint Poppe declares the Lutheran church is a "guilt-free zone," something I don't think Luther would have said, but a UOJer would say it. Luther taught the law and gospel, but in reality UOJers don't preach the law, but only the gospel, since what power does the law have to convict people of sin if people are forgiven before they are even born?
Saying the church is guilt-free is like saying that the laundry room is free of dirty clothes when that's the very place where most dirty clothes is found. The sinful world feels guilt-free, and now the UOJers want people in the church to feel just like the worldly do every day. Why have the church at all since the worldly feel guilt-free without the church?:
The Evangelical Lutheran Church — A No Guilt Zone.
March 30th, 2012Post by Pastor Clint Poppe
http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=17989
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Rolf Preus on SpenerQuest:
As a matter of fact, this particular thread has shown that there is a wonderful unanimity in teaching on the central doctrine of the Christian religion on the part of the synods that used to comprise the Synodical Conference (tm). Conversations such as these serve to solidify that precious agreement on the truth and to put into perspective our disagreements. I am not one to appeal to synods as authorities in divine teaching, but it is remarkable to me how these conservative / confessional Lutheran synods have remained in fundamental agreement on what is most important.
I'm not sure that we have always rightly applied Romans 16, 17, but I am quite sure that the Apostle does not wish to forbid arguing against false doctrine on a website -- or anywhere else, for that matter.
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GJ - The SpenerQuest denizens seldom resist an opportunity to start praising one another and thanking God for their purity.
I will get into more detail in a new post, but the UOJ Stormtroopers are exactly in the mold of 19th century liberal theology. All is grace. All are forgiven. The atonement made the entire world free from sin. The Saxon
group was a Pietist cult, following one man, Stephan, who was a serial adulterer and syphlitic. Like all the Stormtroopers he demanded absolute obedience.
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