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Friday, June 8, 2012
A. Berean on Justification without Faith - The Dogma of the SynConference
A. Berean has left a new comment on your post "Justification by Faith in the Catechisms - Docume...":
I love how Luther always ties forgiveness to the Means of Grace (as one would expect since Scripture does as well). I've had some UOJ Sem Profs tell me that Righteousness is not only secured for all men; not only offered, but even given apart from the Means of Grace. This is based on the axiom that you cannot receive what has not been previously given.
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "A. Berean on Justification without Faith - The Dog...":
Get the UOJists in the Lutheran Synods to discuss their false central and chief doctrine of Universal Forgiveness before and without faith and they will scewer themselves on their own contradictions and the perverse teaching of their false gospel.
Here's Wayne Mueller (W)ELS, presenting one of UOJ's trichobezoar's.
"Appeal to the Lutheran symbols did not resolve the objective justification controversy. (Note Vernon Harley’s use of the Confessions to limit exegetical conclusions in his “Exegetical Study of Scripture Passages Generally Used to Teach ‘Objective’ or ‘Universal’ Justification” 1984, p8) “This is basically why they contend so strongly for ‘objective’ justification and go a step further than our Lutheran Confessions insisting that Objective Justification is the Chief article of the Christian Faith, while our Confessions give that honor to justification by grace through faith”"
Page 7
http://www.wlsessays.net/files/MuellerSymbols.pdf
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A. Berean has left a new comment on your post "Luther's Romans Commentary - UOJ":
The defense used by those who teach UOJ is a false syllogism: "all [men] have sinned" v. 12, "(the) many were made sinners" v. 19, therefore "(the) many" equals "all [men]"
When the error of that syllogism is pointed out, they say "well, look at the tight parallel with verse 18..." THATS THE SAME FAULTY SYLLOGISM!
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LPC has left a new comment on your post "A. Berean on Justification without Faith - The Dog...":
And clearly based on Andreae's statements, the object of faith that receives justification is the atonement of Jesus Christ, i.,e Christ's work and person. As we have read and seen many times, UOJ teachers even categorically state that this is not to be the object of faith, rather, it should be the justification of you which already happened 2000 years ago at the Cross or at Christ' Resurrection.
Andreae therefore clearly was not a UOJer, neither were the other colleagues of his.
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