Signals intelligence intercepted this message from a WELS bigwig:
"The NNIV will more than likely be ratified and that this postponement was merely a pressure valve to let the layman, and pastors who object, let off steam."
Someone asked me, "Is there any real opposition to the NNIV?"
There is at the moment. At the district conventions the NNIV was as popular as a driving lesson from Lindsay Lohan.
However, the California-Arizona-Las Vegas district of WELS was against Jeff Gunn's quasi-Babtist emergent congregation for years, but just had a luv-fest welcoming them into membership in WELS. Those who opposed the Rick Warren copycat were told to repent.
This is typical Diaprax. Let everyone have a say. Let them debate. Let them blow off steam. Form a committee. Form two committees. Then fix the vote that matters and call it a victory for the democratic process and God's will.
That is how WELS got rid of Northwestern College, and they never had the votes. That did not matter. The sheep were told they had lost - a lie. The sheep bleated a few years and watched the Gurgle crew blow $30 million on the cash-saving merger of the two colleges. The $30 million is rumored, but the $8 million claim was fictional. Pick a figure. You don't know the SP's salary and benefits. Do you think the actual figures are your business? Hmm?
I noticed WELS' radical Left substance from the beginning, because I already experienced the radical takeover of the Lutheran Church in America. Some of the best theologians of America came from that tradition - and from The ALC, in the distant past. No one would guess that now.
Constant deception is the main feature of WELS. That is why they want nothing published outside their little mimeograph room at The Love Shack. All independent publications are dangerous because the truth would come out - about the false doctrine, unionism, murders, child molestations, embezzlements, etc. That is why they manage and control Herman Otten energetically.
Here are some obvious examples - the claim versus the truth:
- WELS is in fellowship only with the ELS.
- WELS works with ELCA on many different projects, with all religions via Thrivent, and sends their leaders to Fuller, Willow Creek, and Trinity Divinity - skimming offering dollars to accomplish their re-education program.
- WELS subscribes to the Book of Concord - quia, no less.
- WELS constantly teaches against the Confessions and turns out pastors who loath the Book of Concord as much as the professors in the system - not that anyone actually knows the content.
- WELS believes in the inerrancy of the Scriptures and despises the liberals who do not.
- WELS is promoting the worst translation, really a lame paraphrase, of the Bible, one spawned by the worst apostates. They gladly work with all denominations, even Roman Catholics, but deny it. SP Schroeder just signed a statement with all denominations and the Muslims. Did Brenner need the Muslims behind him? The Catholics?
- WELS is ultra-conservative and strict, very tough on discipline.
- Hahahahaha. They are far to the left of Missouri. Like all mainline National of Council Churches, they punish those who adhere to the original statement of faith or the olden days practices (closed communion). They reward the apostates who follow their example in training at Fuller Seminary. Their abuse of members is legendary. Question Holy Mother WELS - Left Foot of Fellowship. No due process - just the boot. Plagiarism is rewarded with cash grants, loans, and speaking engagements in WELS.
- WELS practices closed communion.
- WELS put the pressure on mission pastors to practice open communion, or at least don't ask don't tell communion - 20 years ago.
- WELS opposes women's ordination.
- WELS promotes women's ordination. They handed Brug the priceless J. P. Meyer dog notes and made him dogmatics professor because he studied Hebrew. Brug approved women's ordination about 15 years ago - in The Popes Speak - the official journal of WELS, aka WLQ. Church and Change has set up young female ministers all over the place and promoted them via FICL.
- WELS ministers are heterosexuals.
- The majority probably are, but there are too many incidents of homosexual pastors and staff getting into trouble which, like a DUI, is a sign of much more of the same. That indicates a network. A DP's tolerance of a known homosexual pastor, and the SP's do-nothing attitude, both suggest another don't ask don't tell policy. You can decode the data - mattress room, the Fox Valley arrest, the pastor who died of AIDS, etc. And that is what has come to me from many different and varied sources.
- WELS is a Lutheran church body.
- WELS is really an anti-Lutheran sect, exemplified by rancid Pietism, a reversal of Law and Gospel, and an unearned smugness for being superior. All the money - and power - has been on the side of copying Fuller, Willow Creek, and the rest of mainline Evangelical morons, ever since 1977. Preparation for the radicalism began earlier, according to my source, known only as California. WELS hates Luther's doctrine and despises justification by faith. Try to find a leader in WELS who can articulate the efficacy of the Word in the Means of Grace, the doctrine of the Holy Spirit, or why they need to repent. There are some, but they will never be heard, never be tolerated for a second.
- WELS got rid of Church and Change, so it is becoming more confessional.
- WELS got rid of the Church and Change website, but the WELS-funded group had already spawned many clones to continue their demon-anointed work of destroying the Lutheran Church. They get constant support from SP Mark Schroeder. Paul Kelm has been the most visible spokesman, first at Church and Change, now at Wisconsin Lutheran College, which begat C and C (with Fox Valley pastors). Except for very brief pastoral careers, Kelm has been on the synod dole for most of his career.
If the red text is starting to make sense, count yourself lucky if you have a faithful pastor who does not have a secret I Heart Groeschel tattoo.
WELS is not as bad as Scientology, but the parallels are startling, including physical abuse during the GA initiation rite at Mequon (which continues still). WELS and Scientology have an obsession with maintaining a holier-than-thou image, calling anyone with the facts "a liar" and worse.
Perhaps the Mormon religion is a closer parallel. People need to accept a different reality to imagine that Mormonism is true and reasonable. As our friend with the double doctorate from Yale said, "You take the classes and one day, either walk away from the absurdities, or snap and accept everything."


2 comments:
Ichabod -
Somehow I don’t think that I will surprise you by another (submitted) comment response to yet another posting of yours about the new NIV11 Murdoch Bible. It’s as if you are ringing the bell for me to respond in Pavlov [conditioned reflex] dog fashion. I won’t disappoint you. Here, following, are my thoughts as to the WELS leadership waiting for the NIV11 opposition steam to dissipate. I’ll repeat (basically) what I’ve previously stated on Ichabod – similar to your assertion:
The fence sitting vote that prevailed to delay a selection of poor choices, is really all part of the “over-kill” (strategy) process. The very reality that the new NIV 11 was included in the 2 other choice mix, gives clear indication that the powers that be in the WELS hierarchy desire the highly flawed Ruppert Murdoch Bible - gender neutral, universalism warts and all. By virtue of the delayed final vote, the WELS bureaucratic officials are granted a year's time to convince the fence sitters that the new NIV 11 isn't all that bad. Their ploy? The "lesser of the two evils” assertion (argument). In this case, it’s the “lesser of the 3 evils,” contention.
This whole long drawn out WELS "window dressing" process appears to be nothing more than "over-kill." Anyone who has read Edgar Allen Poe's, "The Black Cat," can see where this WELS process is eventually headed. They've already done the nasty by touching the unclean thing. Now, they will complete the extended year long process by eventually eating from this rotten NIV translation fruit. Will their NIV 11 apple eating celebration take place next year at this time, - or, will they still yet further (somehow) delay? And, how long can a delay game go on - especially, when lust for an inferior Bible translation is on the WELS leadership hot list?
I think the WELS TEC (Translation Evaluation Committee) has done a marvelous (propaganda) job, setting the table for next year's translation choice vote, on whether to choose the new NIV 11 or not, - or yet to prolong the indecisive agony for yet another year [until enough votes can be mustered].
This long drawn out WELS process and the official WELS 4 part synodical Bible study about the translation process and implications, lend further credence to where all this is headed. I can't help but think that all of this is a carefully contrived attempt by certain WELS professor / clergy and other clergy leadership, to condition and desensitize the membership for the acceptance of the gender neutral, new NIV 11. [Mind you, it makes no difference (to them) that the Southern Baptist Convention turned its thumbs down on this less than desirable translation]
Read that 4 part Bible study, engineered by the very same TEC - Translation Committee, which has already voiced its thumbs up approval of the new gender neutral NIV 11, - and, if you put 2 and 2 together, I think that you would honestly have to conclude that they are hell bent on having an official NIV 11 gender neutral translation for WELS synodical publications, purposes. This would include parochial school materials, catechisms, etc. [Nothing better than the latest popular Bible translation to indoctrinate the youth in universal objective justification propaganda - and, in the process, insuring the future generation of WELS pastors and teachers to propagate this damning false doctrine form].
The very reality that the new NIV11 gender neutral translation was given equal consideration along with the Holman and ESV translations, tips one off to the WELS leadership intent. The Holman and ESV are only stalking horses for the future elevation of the new NIV11, gender neutral WELS standard bearer.
Nathan M. Bickel – emeritus pastor
www.thechristinmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org
Pastor Bickel, I agree entirely. The "delay" option was the only one that made any sense on the ballot. If there had been a "Not the NIV2011, now, or ever" option, I imagine, it would've won in a landslide. Unfortunately, the WELS powers that be, will now have a much smaller group to convince (synod convention delegates) to support the NIV 2011. I for one, hope that my district tells its delegates to support the KJV. Yes, the readability and language is an issue with the KJV, but using the KJV will basically ensure that we don't have to change again for a while, and until all options can be looked at - since basically the report/presentation we got said: "Well, we like the NIV 2011, but because you made us, we cracked the cover of these other 2 and can't say they're any better than the NIV 2011."
As for changing again right away, the 50th anniversary of the original release of the complete NIV is coming up very soon, you can't tell me they aren't thinking about a new revision for that.
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