AC V has left a new comment on your post "Why Start with Extra-Biblical Terms?Could Luther S...":
Steadfast Lutheran's Jim Pierce solves the Objective Justification "problem" of all people being saved by using a non-Book of Concord definition of Justification:
A good starting point in finding definitions for these terms is to look them up at the LCMS Christian Cyclopedia (link here)."...
What does justification mean? “Judicial act of God which consists of non-imputation of sin and imputation of Christ’s righteousness” (ibid.).
How about we start here for a proper definition of justification (It answers a lot of the questions the OJ/SJ confusion stirs up):
Accordingly, the word justify here means to declare righteous and free from sins, and to absolve one from eternal punishment for the sake of Christ's righteousness, which is imputed by God to faith, Phil. 3:9. For this use and understanding of this word is common in the Holy Scriptures of the Old and the New Testament” (FC-SD III:17).
And then don't forget what is necessary for a correct definition of justification (again the Solid Declaration): "...the grace of God, the merit of Christ, and faith, which receives this in the promise of the Gospel, whereby the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us, whence we receive and have forgiveness of sins, reconciliation with God, sonship, and heirship of eternal life”
http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=22406
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "AC V Asks about the Source of Our Definition of Ju...":
Great points AC V.
Note here in (W)ELS DP Jon Buchholz' 2005 WELS Convention essay promoting Universal Justification the absence of faith in his definition of Justification:
What causes justification to take place? Lutheran theologians have always maintained that there are two causes for man’s salvation: (1) the grace of God and (2) the merits of Jesus Christ. Neither of these two causes has anything to do with the participation of sinful human beings. Both causes exist completely in God’s sphere.
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Justification Is An Objective Reality
http://www.wlsessays.net/files/BuchholzJustification.pdf
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GJ - I am trying to decide who is the better judge of this - Martin Chemnitz, the pupil of Luther and Melanchthon, or Jon Buchholz, defender and protector of Rick Johnson and Jeff Gunn?
Buchholz studied under these Church Growth gurus: David Valleskey, Wayne Mueller, and James Tiefel.
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AC V has left a new comment on your post "AC V Asks about the Source of Our Definition of Ju...":
Now wait a minute...Didn't Buchholz say in that essay that the world was saved? Perhaps Buchholz would care to react to Pierce's short answer:
“The first question is asking if objective justification teaches that everyone in the world is saved and this apart from faith. The short answer is, of course, no.
Let the confusion begin...the confusion they have wrought trying to explain UOJ.
