Thursday, August 23, 2012

Dr. Lito Cruz Sent This Note about Samuel Huber



Too bad, I am too preoccupied with teaching workload.

There is a guy there that quoted Tom Hardt on the Wittenberg vs Huber issue, as if Tom Hardt was an objective observer of the debate.

We are aware of what Tom Hardt wrote, that is even in Ichabod. Nathan should ask Diers to give an actual quote from the Wittenberg theologians. Diers is relying on secondary source, it is not from the horse's mouth.



Here is what Diers said 

Huber denied any distinction between “Universal Justification” and “Subjective Justification.

Be that as it may, the distinction can not be supported by Scripture. All we need to do is ask Diers, where in Scripture there is a thing that teaches Universal Justification, the universal declaration of righteousness of all, for justification is what that is - it means - to be declared righteous.

We can back track from Huber a bit but call Diers to the floor to show which Scripture teaches Universal Justification, and there we will see that the Scriptures cited will speak against them.

The UOJers claim they are not Huberites because they have this two justification scheme which Huber does not have. Huber was ultra rational, it can be argued that if Universal Justification is true, Subjective Justification is superfluous. That was Huber then and if the premise is correct, Huber's conclusion is correct and so their conclusion be.

The UOJers are Huberites but they want of course to deny that they are because the evidence is just too stark in your face.

LPC

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GJ - Tom Hardt is the cat's meow for a segment of the ELS, including Jay Webber. Hardt's essay was good for getting a bunch of us aware of Huber. However, Hardt was head-over-heels for UOJ in that essay, so he contradicted his own research.

Walther's Easter absolution is clearly borrowed from Halle Pietism, where his mentor, Bishop Stephan, STD, studied. Jay Webber quoted the Halle Pietist Rambach to support the Easter absolution dogma.

The UOJ Stormtroopers do not deal with P. Leyser obliterating Huber, or Leyser's unique credentials as an expert in justification by faith. Leyser was the biographer of Chemnitz, one of the editors of the Book of Concord, and an early expert chosen to represent Lutheran orthodoxy on the topic of justification.