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WELS Pastor Joel Lillo, Fox Valley, Anything Goes District has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs":
Why do the good blogs have to die so young? When is yours going to kick the bucket? Soon, I hope!
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GJ - How else can I get the Fox Valley pastors to read Lutheran doctrine? Try plagiarizing the Reformer for once.
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WELS Pastor Joel Lillo, Fox Valley, Anything Goes District has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs":
Why do the good blogs have to die so young? When is yours going to kick the bucket? Soon, I hope!
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GJ - How else can I get the Fox Valley pastors to read Lutheran doctrine? Try plagiarizing the Reformer for once.
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Febreze has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs":
Joel, this blog has woken up many faithful Lutheran pastors and laymen. I hope that this blog wouldn't ever go down. It's the lighthouse during a storm. Enjoy your Pietism and universalism, while we'll enjoy the BoC and actually uphold it instead of being a hypocrite.
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GJ - Joel says he agrees with the Augsburg Confession, so why does he want this blog to die? How many blogs have copied most of the Book of Concord? One (1) - Ichabod.
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LPC has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs. Two UOJ Blogs Are Gone":
The same way the Huberites were driven by orthodox Lutherans, these UOJ blogs need to die as well.
UOJ is wrong and contrary to Scripture and the Confessions, UOJ bloggers deleting their blogs is the first step to their recovery.
LPC
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs. Two UOJ Blogs Are Gone":
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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs. Two UOJ Blogs Are Gone":
Ichabod -
May I present a couple of plausible theories why the fake Ichabod has apparently closed down? You must know me by now that I seldom deny anyone my opinion:
1) Perhaps, fake ichabod was only showing 10 pageviews every two days and the author felt it wasn't his worthwhile anymore to plagairize your web name. Perhaps, he became guilt stricken that he was protesting too much while having to mimic your website's name in order to gain those 5 pageviews per day when some people did their online searches for the real Ichabod site.
2) Perhaps, fake ichabod somehow impressed some Lutheran district and synodical leaders that the author was offered some favor and or a position. Perhaps, fake ichabod was ordered to cease because it reminded synodical bureacracy of the real Ichabod. Perhaps, the rest of the anonymous fake ichabod commenting crew will be harnessed for some new website endeavor, such as extolling the latest church growth fashions and the latest cultural fades. After all, there are so many empty church pews to fill for all those Universalist back door loses......
Nathan M. Bickel
www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org
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GJ - You have a point, Pastor Bickel. No one wants to show page-views. I have them out, with the most popular posts for the week, month, and all-time since June of 2010.
There is no doubt that the Appleton blog was simply fueling what I do. After all, I went there for inspiration and found it as barren as Fox Valley's doctrine. The dog in the manger is keeping the URL. If he cannot use it, no one else can. His other blog is the same way, so some gay blogger renamed it Anonymous E. Clever? I called Tim "Anonymouse" and he callled his really vicious, crude, scatological blog Anonymouse. He even signed his comments that way, until I pinned down his location and identified him (and Joel Lillo, his partner in crime).
Like most bullies, they act all fem and passive when confronted one-on-one. They are only tough when they have a ten-to-one advantage or anonymity.
The Arizona land steal should continue to heat up. WELS does not want its predatory nature out in the open.
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Pastor Joel Lillo, WELS, Fox Valley, Anything Goes District has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs. Two UOJ Blogs Are Gone":
Oh my goodness, where else COULD someone POSSIBLY find the Book of Concord online? It's so incredibly hard to find! Well,maybe someone might possibly find it if they went here: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=book+of+concord&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
As far as UOJ is concerned: I don't think there is an appreciable difference between what you believe (universal atonement) and the official teaching of (W)ELS (to use Brett Meyer's patented abbreviation). Let me repeat this (and I'll put it in all caps so that Greg's sycophants can know I'm emphasizing this): THERE IS NO ONE IN (W)ELS WHO TEACHES UNIVERSALISM. WE SAY THAT GOD CONSIDERS ALL SINS COMPLETELY PAID FOR BECAUSE OF JESUS' PERFECT LIFE AND INNOCENT DEATH, BUT THAT NO ONE RECEIVES THE BENEFIT OF THAT UNLESS THEY ARE BROUGHT TO FAITH THROUGH THE MEANS OF GRACE.
I think I'm done here.
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GJ - Joel, you are a poster boy for obdurate ignorance of doctrine.
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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs. Two UOJ Blogs Are Gone":
Ichabod -
Believing Rev. Joel Lillo's claim that WELS doesn't promulgate universal objective justification is like forcing oneself to believe that Obama is a disciple of Christ:
http://moralmatters.org/2012/04/26/obama-not-christian-no-more-than-the-man-in-the-moon-13/
http://moralmatters.org/2012/05/10/obama-proves-again-he-is-not-a-christian-4/
Furthermore, Lillo is blowing hot air. I've documented the universalism in my WELS neck of the woods:
"Pastor Nathan Bickel on UOJ in WELS. Aaron Frey Still Preaching in WELS. How Far Will He Go?"
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/07/pastor-nathan-bickel-on-uoj-in-wels.html
Finally, denying something, does not make it go away. Has Pastor Lillo not paid attention to what Ichabod has been exposing? But, then again, that's the denial factor at work [with him].
Nathan M. Bickel
http://www.thechristianmessage.org/
http://moralmatters.org/
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs. Two UOJ Blogs Are Gone":
(W)ELS Pastor Joel Lillo states, "THERE IS NO ONE IN (W)ELS WHO TEACHES UNIVERSALISM. WE SAY THAT GOD CONSIDERS ALL SINS COMPLETELY PAID FOR BECAUSE OF JESUS' PERFECT LIFE AND INNOCENT DEATH, BUT THAT NO ONE RECEIVES THE BENEFIT OF THAT UNLESS THEY ARE BROUGHT TO FAITH THROUGH THE MEANS OF GRACE."
This is not true.
"Then of course there is our life's calling as proclaimers of God's own message. How can the lonely, the depressed, the grieving, the suffering and the insecure be pulled from the pits of their bad feelings unless they hear the objective reality of God's love apart from their feelings; unless they hear no condition attached to the universal salvation Christ procured for them as individuals?"
"What does frightened little Suzy need to hear when she comes to you and says, "Teacher, my Baptist friend told me I'm going to burn in hell if I don't hurry up and ask Jesus into my heart"? What a time to apply the objective reality of Jesus' love for Suzy! What a time to apply Christ's universal salvation to this trembling little lamb!"
"Whether it be a personal conversation with our landlord, neighbor or friend, or whether it be a more "professional" conversation with the unchurched parent of a pupil or with the new prospect discovered by the evangelism committee, we know for certain the message we have for them. In our minds there's no Reformed reflection on whether or not this person really is one of God's elect. There's no Arminian condition attached to the forgiveness we hold out to them. The only message that will bring them to faith, strengthen them in their faith and motivate them to want to hear the Word is our simplified version of universal and objective justification."
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David J. Beckman
Universal and Objective Justification with Special Emphasis on a Recent Controversy
http://www.wlsessays.net/files/BeckmanUniversal.PDF
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LPC has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs. Two UOJ Blogs Are Gone":
Joel could have done a real good job if he followed the rule for minister's scholarship, which is to quote the sources.
Are these CAP lettered words from the WELS official documents? Nope. The words were his interpretation or his own spin of what the official documents state.
So Brett was spot on to replay back for the whole Internet world to see what their synodic leaders really teach and confess.
LPC
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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Kilcreased Blogs. Two UOJ Blogs Are Gone":
It is no time to rejoice over a couple of websites, apparently closing down. I was reminded of the Scripture:
"Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him. Fret not thyself because of evil men, neither be thou envious at the wicked; for there shall be no reward to the evil man; the candle of the wicked shall be put out. [Proverbs 24:17-20]
Furthermore, who are a Christian's enemies? Obviously, many unbelievers, as that is expected, as they are outside the pale of Christianity [the church]. But, those within the church are very deadly because they foment and promulgate doctrines of devils, thereby leading souls, astray. [1 Timothy 4:1-2 ; 2 Timothy 3:1-5]
Finally, regarding many Christian pastors' allegiances:
I've always thought that synodical (denominational) affiliation; coupled with (their) perspective church pension systems, pathetically end up being the worldly blood that is thicker than the Gospel water. [1 Peter 5:2-4 ; Titus 1:11 ; Matthew 23:14 ; Isaiah 56:10-11 ; John 15:1-3]
Nathan M. Bickel
http://www.thechristianmessage.org/
http://moralmatters.org/
