http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2010/04/contra-wels-kw-heretics.html
west59wy (http://west59wy.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "WELS Kingdom Workers Work-Righteousness":
The highlighted sentence drips of a proud, pietistic, boastful spirit that loves to pin awards on those who say they are "sharing the Word" while slamming those who, in their exalted view, aren't because they haven't enrolled in the latest evangelism training session, hung doorhangers, etc. Tell it to the widowed mother who is raising her difficult teenage sons, paying the bills by toiling at a thankless job, who comes home exhausted after she's punched out the clock, who maybe has a enough gas left in the tank to read a devotion before nodding off, and who manages to come to church but is not much "involved" beyond that. Calling her a "church watcher"? Her church is her home, her altar is her family, her font is her job! Making such artificial distinctions as that of "church workers and "church watchers" reminds one of the haughty Corinthian spirits who looked down on the apostle Paul because he didn't measure up to their pre-determined standards of what qualified for a real apostle and a fake one. Yet,God uses the lowly...
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GJ - I wonder what happened to the memory of the housemother, a poor widow, who raised a bunch of boys while doing menial labor. Her last name was Pieper. I suppose that is forgotten when WELS leaders slaver over such names as Drucker, Stetzer, Beeson, Stanley, Wagner, Hybel, and Sweet.
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Rev. Fr. Spencer has left a new comment on your post "Contra - The WELS KW Heretics":
As much as I appreciate some of the work of WKW in the past, especially the Builders for Christ, I'm afraid they have now been completely taken over by church growth nuts and fanatics. Their material simply drips of Pietism. And watch out, ladies, LWMS could easily head off in the same direction. Be vigilant!
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KJV Matthew 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
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west59wy (http://west59wy.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "WELS Kingdom Workers Work-Righteousness":
The highlighted sentence drips of a proud, pietistic, boastful spirit that loves to pin awards on those who say they are "sharing the Word" while slamming those who, in their exalted view, aren't because they haven't enrolled in the latest evangelism training session, hung doorhangers, etc. Tell it to the widowed mother who is raising her difficult teenage sons, paying the bills by toiling at a thankless job, who comes home exhausted after she's punched out the clock, who maybe has a enough gas left in the tank to read a devotion before nodding off, and who manages to come to church but is not much "involved" beyond that. Calling her a "church watcher"? Her church is her home, her altar is her family, her font is her job! Making such artificial distinctions as that of "church workers and "church watchers" reminds one of the haughty Corinthian spirits who looked down on the apostle Paul because he didn't measure up to their pre-determined standards of what qualified for a real apostle and a fake one. Yet,God uses the lowly...
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GJ - I wonder what happened to the memory of the housemother, a poor widow, who raised a bunch of boys while doing menial labor. Her last name was Pieper. I suppose that is forgotten when WELS leaders slaver over such names as Drucker, Stetzer, Beeson, Stanley, Wagner, Hybel, and Sweet.
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Rev. Fr. Spencer has left a new comment on your post "Contra - The WELS KW Heretics":
As much as I appreciate some of the work of WKW in the past, especially the Builders for Christ, I'm afraid they have now been completely taken over by church growth nuts and fanatics. Their material simply drips of Pietism. And watch out, ladies, LWMS could easily head off in the same direction. Be vigilant!
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KJV Matthew 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2010/11/kw-steffen.html
This did not kelm very well, according to Vicar Meyer, so I am posting just the link.
This gentleman is one of the key speakers (with Jeske and Ski) at the WELS Willowcreek Chapel college event.
No one has the guts to do anything, but at least you can read about it.
It's a good thing WELS has this blog so people can find out what is really happening, mutter at coffee hours, and sit on their hands.
The Changers are busy little devils.
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Rogue Lutheran wrote:
Your most recent post about KW Steffen post is disturbing, the first one was nagging at me.
Steffen is an independent contractor/facilitator retained by management (WELS); so, he will naturally move team building along the lines of the person that signs his check, WELS.
This reminds me of the 'conflict manager' para church operations working over the flock in the LCMS (like Les Stroh, Cornerstone Consulting, buddy of SP JK, & Wheatridge (RSO) conflict management expert Pr Fangmier, who was trained by Stroh).
Control the opposition, control the outcome----- the church leaders are not playing fair.
I'm not sure, from reading the two articles if Steffen is even a Lutheran?
At least in LCMS they make an attempt to wear a cloak of conformity as to appear as Lutheran.
I don't know what's worse?
As an aside, KW Steffen cites Toffler, the futurist, which should raise a red flag.
