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| Those "free" seminars are subsidized by Thrivent so they can sell their insurance products via a licensed insurance agent. Their paid agent is a Planned Giving Counselor with a "divine call" from the greedy synod. The agent gets a commission from each sale, so don't let Gramps and Granny take a pen to the seminar. |
Recently an independent Lutheran congregation discussed the issue of affiliating with a group.
One of the council members asked, "What does any synod have to offer us?"
Another Lutheran observed in a phone conversation, "The synods are finished. It is just a matter of time."
The synod structures do not exist to preach the Gospel but to reward friends and relatives. Each one is a massive skimming operation. Some will say, "Except for the Little Sect on the Prairie." No, they get more bucks per communicant than anyone from Marvin Schwan indulgences and from Thrivent's pan-religious donations.
They beat the drums for more money but refuse to say how it is spent. Simply asking for an accounting is the same as begging to be excommunicated.
Education? They do not educate anyone in Lutheran doctrine or the Bible. Ask parochial school graduates if they even know what the Book of Concord is. Ask a DP to explain the Gospel in Biblical terms, without the OJ/SJ labels of Pietism.
The SynCons use their seminaries to untrain candidates in Biblical knowledge, making them fund the salaries of lazy professors who just happen to be political pals.
Lutherans and Episcopalians have discovered they can walk away from mental slavery and supervisory abuse to live in peace with like-minded individuals and congregations. Federations work better than hierarchies when men cannot restrain their greed and ambition.
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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Sects Necessary? - Pastors and Congregations Askin...":
Ichabod -
Yes - so aptly, put:
>>>>> "The synods are finished. It is just a matter of time." <<<<<
Those at the top of these ecclesiastical entities, will be the last to truly realize that reality. Why? Because Christ stated that He would build His Church.
Nathan M. Bickel
www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org
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Ichabod -
Yes - so aptly, put:
>>>>> "The synods are finished. It is just a matter of time." <<<<<
Those at the top of these ecclesiastical entities, will be the last to truly realize that reality. Why? Because Christ stated that He would build His Church.
Nathan M. Bickel
www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org
Some interesting new feats in aeronautics. Now blimps are being made out of carbon fiber, and thus are much tougher and safer. Also, guidance systems are getting so much better due to faster micro-chips that they can now make rockets that can land standing up. Hence the age of reusable rockets is upon us:
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-aeros-airship-tustin-20130104,0,799208.story
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/01/business/la-fi-0902-cover-nextgen-airship-20120902
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-spacex-grasshopper-reusable-rocket-20121224,0,3823929.story
Concordia-U Mequon to have AiG (Answers in Genesis) creation conference on astronomy, July 8–10, 2013:
http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2013/01/05/astronomy-conference/
Steadfast Lutherans agrees with Rev. Bickel. Steadfast Lutherans believes that synods who fund church growth churches with satellite churches are funding their own dissolution. The synods will be replaced with a collection of mega-churches.
Now someone might say that the LCMS is already loaded up with dual and triple parishes, and these don't cast off the synod, so why would mega-churches weaken a synod. The difference is that these satellite churches are in big cites, not in small towns, so they can grow very large. Also, if they can pipe their services to satellites, they can easily add TV church.
The larger congregations have a history of doing what they want within a synod, and also leaving synods, so synods will have greatly diminished power in the near future.
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http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=25941
Worshippers became comfortable seeing their minister on a screen.
Without realizing it, Saddleback had proven that believers would accept a sermon delivered by a pastor who wasn’t in the room.
Murrow predicts that by 2062...
...denominations as we know them will be gone – replaced by about 200 “mother churches” with tens or even hundreds of thousands of members worshipping in satellite and microchurches in thousands of cities across the globe.
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Boundaries for our DPs: An Update
http://steadfastlutherans.org/?p=13571
Re: My First Comment
I should have not only clarified what I stated; but, also expanded and elaborated.
Here, [following] is what I stated:
****** Ichabod -
Yes - so aptly, put:
>>>>> "The synods are finished. It is just a matter of time." <<<<<
Those at the top of these ecclesiastical entities, will be the last to truly realize that reality. Why? Because Christ stated that He would build His Church. *********
My now, (elaborating) clarification:
Ecclesiastical entities aren't the "real" thing. Seminaries and Bible colleges and their perspective denominations with which they place parish pastors and rule over congregations, are not the Biblical model. I make reference to this in my one topical message of:
"The Priesthood of All Believers and why Christian churches end up, stooping to gimmickry:'
Excerpt:
>>>>>> ...... Most always within Christianity, is the following overlooked and discarded:
There is no New Testament Christian evidence for seminary and / or Bible school training, - none, whatsoever. The invention of formal theological training under the auspices of church hierarchy grew out of the control and manipulation of post century Christianity.
The Scriptural New Testament model is, rather straight forward, as opposed to the modern and contrived [legal] requirements of denominational and church body conferences. Read the New Testament epistles and note how elders (pastors) were selected [called] and appointed. Specifically zero in on the Book of Acts 1:1f and the "Pastoral Epistles," of 1 and 2 Timothy 1:1f - and, the book of Titus 1:1f....... <<<<<<
http://www.thechristianmessage.org/2011/01/failure-to-understand-and-implement.html
Please take note of Christ's words to Peter, about His Church. It is the same Holy Christian Church which the Lord mentions in Paul's Holy Spirit authored words in Ephesians 5:25-27
"His" - Christ's Church will, and is being built inspite of the damning influence of denominational and synodical "Christianity." That was Jesus' promise to Peter and His present and [now] later day disciples.
And, we must not overlook the context of Matthew 16. Before Jesus' promise about "His Church," He said the following:
"Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees." [Matthew 16:6]
Matthew 16:6, specifically [and following] is why ".....The synods are finished. It is just a matter of time."
Nathan M. Bickel
www.thechristianmessage.org
www.message.org
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