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Saturday, March 16, 2013

ELCA's Luther Seminary - Too Big To Fail?

"A blessing for Ichabod in this program?
Oh yes, Gracious Heavenly Father,
bless and keep Ichabod
far away from us."

LPC has left a new comment on your post "ELCA's Luther Seminary - Too Big To Fail?":

Wow look at the gigantic crucifix on Rev. Wilken, is he trying to say he is more spiritual by that?

Looks like he is wearing the large one to ward off Evangelicals.



bruce-church ( has left a new comment on your post "ELCA's Luther Seminary - Too Big To Fail?":

In the pics with McCain, Weedon et al (above), I notice the large crucifix that Wilken is wearing on a neck chain appear to be made to mount on a wall. I guess he didn't read the label on the package at CPH.


GJ - Processional crosses were on sale at Fortress, Bruce and Lito.


bruce-church ( has left a new comment on your post "ELCA's Luther Seminary - Too Big To Fail?":

Lito, your comment wasn't posted (hadn't been approved) when I made my comment, so we both thought the same thing independently about one particular detail of this post, which is very coincidental considering how info-laden this particular post was.

"I am so glad I could rig the baby-cam
so I could watch kitty playing while I'm gone."

"My new app counts carbs for me,
and has The Catholic Encyclopedia as the home page for Internet Explorer."

bruce-church said...

I like how the Luther Sem president had to leave after the seminary lost a mere $4 million, but for years student debt has been rising, and that was a-o-kay with the seminary regents.


School announces search for new president after losing nearly $4 million last school year.


Tuition and living expenses
$15,000 annually for full-time study
$32,870* annually for full-time study, living expenses and books
*Reflects cost for students living on campus and reflects the 2012-13 academic year

Student debt
31% graduate without seminary debt
69% graduate with seminary debt
Median indebtedness is $42,279
Financial information is current as of October 2012 and is based upon the 2012-13 fiscal year.
bruce-church said...

The only candidate left for the Luther Seminary presidency resigns after it is revealed in the student newspaper that's he's a LCMS member. Could that be because many Luther Seminary M.Div. students looking to go into the ministry are women. 46% of the seminary students are women, and they only have a small music ministry program there, so one can guess most of them are ministerial students. Moreover, the big fad on campus there is multiculturalism and anti-racism. Also, one seminary student was a Lutheran pastor who has conducted numerous same-sex marriages in the past, and even wrote a letter to the new pope about the subject in 2010:

Male/female enrollment

54% male
46% female


Students cultivate anti-racist, multicultural identities:


Now studying at Luther Seminary, [Andrew] Albertsen sent an email from St. Paul when Bergoglio made harsh statements about gay marriage in 2010.

“I told him whenever you say something about gay marriage, think about that you are also issuing a judgment about me,” Albertsen said.


Argentina: The Danish Church in Buenos Aires performs marriages between same-sex couples.[24]

Footnote 24: 2 June 2010).

"A church blesses gay couples who want to give themselves to God. La Nacion (Buenos Aires). Retrieved 25 July 2012. "However, not all Protestant churches have the same position. Such is the case of the Danish Lutherans, whose temples are blessed unions of same-sex couples and from which it is supported gay marriage in Argentina. in fact, in Buenos Aires, Roberto Pastor Andrew Albertsen, held in a five religious civil unions between same-sex and hopes to do the same with the marriage, if they are enabled in civil matters. "


Robert Jenson, ELCA apostate.
He longs to pope.
 GJ -

 PS on Robert Jenson, Luther College, once conservative:

Robert Jenson

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Luther's Rose
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Robert W. Jenson (born 1930, Eau Claire, Wisconsin) is a leading American Lutheran andecumenical theologian.



[edit]Student years

Jenson studied classics and philosophy at Luther College in the late 1940s, before beginning theological studies at Luther Seminary in 1951. Due to a car accident he missed most of his first-year seminary studies, and during that year he immersed himself in the works of Kant and Kierkegaard. Jenson began reading historical-critical scholars like Hermann Gunkel and Sigmund Mowinckel, and as a result he became deeply interested in the biblical texts and in the theological significance of the Old Testament.
At Luther Seminary, Jenson was assistant to the renowned orthodox Lutheran theologian, Herman Preus. Preus infused Jenson with an admiration for the theology of post-Reformation Lutheran scholasticism, and with a strong belief in the orthodox Lutheran understanding of predestination. Against the majority of the staff at Luther Seminary at that time, who believed that God elected individuals to salvation on the basis of "foreseen faith", Preus held that God had decreed the salvation of a definite number of the elect, without a decree of reprobation. Other influences at Luther Seminary included Edmund Smits, who introduced Jenson to the work of Augustine, and fellow-student Gerhard Forde, who introduced him to the work of Rudolf Bultmann. While studying at seminary, Jenson also met and married Blanche Rockne, who became one of the major stimuli for his theological work (one of his later books includes a dedication to Blanche, "the mother of all my theology"[1]).
After seminary, Jenson taught in the department of religion and philosophy at Luther College from 1955 to 1957, before moving toHeidelberg for doctoral studies in 1957-58. Though he had planned to write his dissertation on Bultmann, his supervisor, Peter Brunner, advised him to work on Karl Barth's doctrine of election. Thus Jenson worked on Barth's theology at Heidelberg, and he also studied nineteenth-century German theology and philosophy, partly with the help of the new Heidelberg lecturer, Wolfhart Pannenberg. He also attended a seminar there with Martin Heidegger (and, during a later visit to Heidelberg, with Hans-Georg Gadamer). Even more significantly, at Heidelberg he became friends with another young Lutheran scholar, Carl Braaten, who would later become his "chief theological companion"[2] and his most important theological collaborator.

[edit]Early career

Jenson's doctoral dissertation (revised and published in 1963 as Alpha and Omega) was completed in Basel, with Barth's approval, and so Jenson returned to Luther College, where he continued to study Barth while also developing an increasing interest in the philosophy of Hegel. The faculty of the religion department was uncomfortable with Jenson's theological liberalism, and his openness to biblical criticism and evolutionary biology was strongly condemned. When the college failed to force Jenson's retirement, several professors from the religion and biology departments resigned in protest. From 1960 to 1966, Jenson was thus left with the task of helping to rebuild an entire religion department, and he became especially involved in the development of a new philosophy department.[3] During these years, he also wrote A Religion against Itself (1967), which sharply critiqued the American religious culture of the 1960s.
Jenson finally left Luther College to spend three years as Dean and Tutor of Lutheran Studies at Mansfield CollegeOxford University.[4]Here he was able to focus for the first time on teaching theology, and he was deeply influenced by his encounters with Anglicanism and with ecumenical worship. The three years at Oxford marked a creative and productive period in Jenson's career. In The Knowledge of Things Hoped For (1969), he sought to integrate the traditions of European hermeneutics and English analytical philosophy, while also drawing on patristic and medieval theologians such as Origen and Thomas Aquinas. And in God after God (1969), he sought to go beyond the "death of God" theology by emphasizing the actualism and futurity of God's being. The proposal advanced in God after Godwas in many respects parallel to the new "theology of hope" that was being developed at the time in Germany by young scholars likeJürgen Moltmann and Wolfhart Pannenberg. At Oxford, Jenson also supervised the doctoral work of Colin Gunton, who went on to become one of Great Britain's most distinguished and influential systematic theologians.
From Oxford, Jenson returned to America in 1968 and took up a position at the Lutheran Seminary in Gettysburg. His work here focused in part on distinctively Lutheran themes, especially in the books Lutheranism (1976) and Visible Words (1978). He also began to engage deeply with patristic thought (especially with Gregory of NyssaCyril of Alexandria, and Maximus the Confessor), which led him to develop a creative new proposal for trinitarian theology in The Triune Identity (1982).
Further, as a result of his encounter with Anglicanism at Oxford, Jenson was appointed to the first round of Lutheran-Episcopal ecumenical dialogue in 1968. This was the beginning of his long involvement with the ecumenical movement, which would deeply shape his later theology. With George Lindbeck, he became involved in the Roman Catholic-Lutheran dialogue; and in 1988, he spent time at the Institute for Ecumenical Research at Strasbourg. Throughout his career, Jenson's theology continued to move in an increasingly Catholic, conservative and ecumenical direction. He interacted extensively with the work of Catholic theologians like Joseph Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI) and Hans Urs von Balthasar, and with Eastern Orthodox theologians like Maximus the ConfessorJohn Zizioulas and Vladimir Lossky.

[editLater career

After two decades of teaching at Lutheran Theological Seminary in Gettysburg, Jenson moved in 1988 to the religion department of St. Olaf College in Northfield, Minnesota. He was joined in Northfield by his friend Carl Braaten, and together they founded the conservative Center for Catholic and Evangelical Theology[5] in 1991. The founding of this Center marked a new period of intensive ecumenical involvement for Jenson: with Braaten, he organized numerous ecumenical conferences, and began publishing the theological journal Pro Ecclesia.
Jenson continued to teach at St. Olaf College until 1998, when he retired and took up a position as Senior Scholar for Research at the Center for Theological Inquiry[6] in Princeton, New Jersey. Before leaving St. Olaf College, he completed work on his magnum opus, the two-volume Systematic Theology (1997–99), which has since been widely regarded as one of the most important and creative recent works of systematic theology. In a review of this work, Wolfhart Pannenberg described Jenson as "one of the most original and knowledgeable theologians of our time".[7]
Jenson currently resides in Princeton, NJ.