Wednesday, July 9, 2014

Terrible Advice from WELS Circuit Pastor Steve Spencer




"Tell us how you really feel, Anonymous WELS Pastor."

From The Polluted WELS Blog

tlcsvaz@orthodoxlutheran.info said...
Matthias -

Two things briefly:

1.) If you are a WELS Pastor, have you discussed your assessment with your CP, DP, and SP? I'm not suggesting any "18 & 8" violation, but one of the things that is important in WELS is for those with concerns to actually speak the leadership. This is the only chance for them to see that maybe, just maybe there are indeed real problems in our synod. If you are a layperson, have you confronted your Pastor(s) with your observations? Here again, this is an important and honest first step.

2.) This is not meant as a criticism, just an observation, but it would also help if you weren't semi-anonymous or using a pseudonym. As long as the vast majority of WELS critics are nameless and faceless, their statements will carry no weight at all. Of course, even if they are known - as the Intrepids were - they will carry only very little weight. Still, going public would seem to be the Biblical way to go. Just saying.
July 9, 2014 at 8:07 AM

[GJ - Confidential to Steve Spencer - Sign your name when advising against anonymity. That might mean more to the recipient.]

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GJ - Given the Intrepid Lutherans track record of non-support for one of their own, this is the worst advice anyone could  give.

Pastor Paul Rydecki did all this, and DP Jon-Boy Buchholz kicked him out while promising the entire congregation that he (DP Jon-Boy) would continue discussing the topic of justification by faith. Next, Jon-Boy kicked out the congregation for rejecting UOJ and licked his canines at the conference, bragging how he was foreclosing on the congregation's mortgage.

Soon Jon-Boy was so far up Jeff Gunn's wazoo that he could see the bottom of Mark Jeske's feet. But I am sure the reports of Jeff sitting on Jon's lap at conferences are pure hyperbole.

The Intrepid Lutheran blog got interesting, so Steve Spencer quit the blog he started, saying it was not doing any good. He pronounced a pox on UOJ and JFBA. Very little has been posted since then, but there are two new posts by laymen.

The WELS Circuit Pastors are considered finger puppets of the District Pope. If they cease being finger-puppets, the DP gets rid of them by fiat.

The DPs and CPs know what is going on in WELS - and deny it when covering up, or laugh about it. Spencer must have jumped off the bus from Our Lady of Perpetual Obligation Convent School when he wrote that advice.

Sensible Advice
Your blog is great. Great title, great posts. Real discussion.

Make serious plans for life outside of WELS. You cannot continue in the cult when its corruption is so obvious.They will find you and kick you out. The WELS leaders will never stop unleashing their vindictiveness and venom on you and your family.

I have always said - clergy should have a second vocation. It is far better to work on the side and carry on with an independent congregation. And there are various options, certainly not in the ELS, but  in other places.

St. Paul made tents on the side, so he would not be a burden to his congregations. Clergy have worthless educations for getting another job, but they often have special skills they can use in the workplace. It is best to prepare beforehand and not wait until the force-you-out meeting happens with DP, his syncophant CP, or both - Dumb and Dumber.

If you want a friend in WELS, buy a dog. The WELS clergy are the worst back-stabbers on this planet. They will walk with a fiend to a cliff, then push him off and blame him for falling. Job's Comforters are still around. Those who suddenly become friendly and sympathetic are simply synod-minders, running to the DP so they can make a good impression.

May God strengthen you in leaving Plato's Cave. The view outside is much better.
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Engelbrecht supported:
plagiarism,
 Ski,
Glende,
excommunicating a member for telling the truth,
and suing a member for telling the truth.
Mark Schroeder supported Deputy Doug.