Anonymous - The Synod Minder - Is Really Corked. When Someone Says, We Are Unified, He Is Eyeballing the Lifeboats

Anonymous Spider spends a lot of time on the Web,
drumming his feet to see what he is trapping in his silken trap.

http://welsdocument.blogspot.com/2015/03/synod-appeals-process-what-happens-when.html

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   AnonymousMarch 2, 2015 at 3:12 PM

   I wonder what disunity and animosity you refer to? I won't pretend that all 380,000+ individuals are always perfectly on exactly the same page at all times. Nor do I think anyone would claim that. But what great disunity has existed in the last decade? A temporary blog with some complaints doesn't prove disunity. It means somewhere between exactly 1 to maybe a couple dozen people had some issues at that particular moment. The thing that I would say that divided our church body was an issue of translation. It was brought up extensively and showed great disunity. Let's also fairly point out that it was a division only over translation. Should Isaiah 7:14 read "virgin" or "maiden." We were divided on issues like these. However, we were all unified on the fact that Isaiah 7:14 was a Messianic prophecy written by Isaiah himself about Mary who in a miraculous way would conceive the Son of God as a virgin. The only debate was about what was the best way to represent the Hebrew since two different words were obviously possible there. Compare this to church's who debate the inerrancy of the Word or the definition of marriage and I think you will find the WELS is very united.
   Even the "justification" "controversy" was really an example of unity. While there are a few people lurking on the internet but on the convention floors things were silent, and many districts studied the issue. You can claim they were frightened into timidity but then why not speak up as a group if there is so much disunity? Find a couple dozen people to approach the mic together if you are afraid. Certainly if there is as much disunity as is claimed by some you should be able to find others to speak with you?
   I really am curious; What is the disunity you speak of? Is there tangible evidence of it being brought forward by more than a dozen people on the internet? What great lingering fissures are out there that people are continuing to make public that our church body hasn't come to a consensus on?
   (Please don't say something like "Time of Grace" that was handled at the last convention to the satisfaction of all but a dozen people on the internet. A person's personal dissatisfaction with an outcome does not prove disunity within a group.)

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   AnonymousMarch 2, 2015 at 4:22 PM

   I agree with 3:12! The "disunity" you see among the blogging community is a poor sample. Of course there's some disagreement (usually, but not always, practice rather than doctrine). But we would be hard-pressed to find a more unified group of believers this side of heaven. Praise the Lord for this blessing!

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   There was an outcry that DP Buchie would dignify the
   latest Jeske circus by being a worship leader,
   so Buchie dropped out - and endorse the fab event anyway.
   Many people follow Buchie - mostly out of curiosity.

   
   
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   AnonymousMarch 2, 2015 at 6:14 PM

   How was Time of Grace handled at the last convention?
   
   Eine arme Schaf

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   AnonymousMarch 2, 2015 at 6:23 PM

   I would also add that disunity in practice is nothing to make light of especially since doctrine will sooner or later follow practice. Practice like an Evangelical and your doctrine will soon be Evangelical. What you describe as unity may in fact be indifference or quiet resignation that our Pastor leading the Synod will do as they please. Either way I would be hesitant to so loudly proclaim unity when in fact we may be whistling past the graveyard.
   
   Eine arme Schaf

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GJ - Standard Operating Procedure for Synod-Minders: deny that anything is wrong. 

The language is pure sarcasm and synod worship. As I recall, he bragged about all his district and synod responsibilities, which means he is another robot trading synod-love for sects-appeal.

I will quote one of them, to show the low level of integrity and lack of faith - "I cannot disagree with the Circuit Pastor, because the Holy Spirit put him in that office. If I disagree, that would be arguing with God."

Well done, move up one square. You may now winter in the Caribbean and "visit missions" all over the world, saying, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?"

The number of blogs shut down by WELS suggests terror over the real issues being aired. That suggests polarization, not peace.

And we all know that false prophets say, "Peace, peace" where there is no peace.

Jeremiah 6:14 They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

15 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith theLord.

16 Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

17 Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.

18 Therefore hear, ye nations, and know, O congregation, what is among them.

19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.

20 To what purpose cometh there to me incense from Sheba, and the sweet cane from a far country? your burnt offerings are not acceptable, nor your sacrifices sweet unto me.

21 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will lay stumblingblocks before this people, and the fathers and the sons together shall fall upon them; the neighbour and his friend shall perish.