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| Valleskey, the last Mequon seminary president, went to Fuller Seminary, so Paul Wendland is continuing the trend toward anti-Lutheran, mainline apostasy. |
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I was wondering and would very much appreciate if you could give your own version of the top ten verses that argue for the KJV to be used over that of the NNIV. And give your reasoning for each of the 10 verses you choose.
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GJ - I am happy to help out, Marco. I selected eight easy examples, with my explanations in purple, below each set.
Genesis 4:1
NNIV
1 Adam[a] made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain.[b] She said, “With the help of the LORD I have brought forth[c] a man.”
Genesis 4:1 a - Or The man
KJV
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
GJ - The NNIV has created two major problems with Genesis 4:1. The first is the corruption of a perfectly good verb - to know. This verb is used exactly the same way in Hebrew, Greek, and English. The deeper meaning of the verb has been trivialized to mean the act itself. This is a Bible for ninnies - the Ninny-veh edition. This problem emerges again in Luke 1:34, where Mary says, "34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” But Mary said, KJV and Greek, "Since I know not a man."
The second problem comes up in the footnote and in many subsequent footnotes. They change the meaning of the Word of God, to make the verse repudiate what the verse plainly reveals. Adam and Eve were actually people, not symbolic myths, but the footnote tells the reader that Adam, as a pun on "man," really stands for humankind evolved from the primates. Therefore, humankind and womenfolk conceived the symbolic Cain. The inventor of NNIV dynamic translation (sic) was Nida, a pea-brained liberal.
Oh yes, WELS is hotter than Georgia asphalt for inerrancy, as SP Schroeder claims, except when it comes to picking Bibles.
Isaiah 7:13-14
NNIV
13 Then Isaiah said, “Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of humans? Will you try the patience of my God also? 14Therefore the Lord himself will give you[a] a sign: The virgin[b] will conceive and give birth to a son, and[c] will call him Immanuel.[d]
Isaiah 7:14 a - Or young woman
KJV
14Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 13And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also?
GJ - Some may remember the scandal of the RSV (created by the left-wing National Council of Churches) denying the Virgin Birth in Isaiah 7. The NNIV denies the Virgin Birth in a footnote, claiming that the Hebrew word simply means "young woman." This rendering, though false, has great appeal for mainline apostates, who reject the Virgin Birth and the divinity of Christ. "Error loves ambiguities," so now the plain meaning of Isaiah 7 could be this or that. Could this be why the Southern Baptists voted against the NNIV, against displaying it in their own bookstores?
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| WELS - Old Lizard-hands gave you the Bible a bad the Southern Babtists do not even display it in their bookstores. Bleh. |
Matthew 26:28
NNIV
28 This is my blood of the[a] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
a - Matthew 26:28 Some manuscripts the new
KJV
28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
GJ - A testament is a one-sided promise. I can give all my money and property, to an heir - without the knowledge or consent of that person. That is called a Last Will and Testament.
A covenant is two-sided, so the non-Lutheran Protestants have favored the term covenant. Testament emphasizes that Christ's atoning sacrifice is payment for the sins of the world, whether anyone believes or not. WELS pretends to be against synergism but accepts this implied synergism. Synergism means that God acts but man "completes the transaction."
Matthew 28:18-20
NNIV
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
KJV
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven
and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
GJ - Fuller Seminary, which is a mainline school, and most Protestants love the false rendering of the Great Commission. The original text clearly says, "Go teach all nations." The Fuller-mainline-Baptist version reads "Go make disciples." The original meaning is in harmony with the Biblical efficacy of the Word, teaching rather than making. "Making disciples" puts the burden on man, turning a Gospel imperative into Law. The Fuller disciples in the Synodical Conference go crazy when someone tries to take away their "make disciples" passage, so they love the NNIV. The Means of Grace are central in the three verbs - Go, teach, baptize. The three verbs also harmonize with the naming of the Trinity - the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
Mark 16:8-20
NNIV
8 Trembling and bewildered, the women went out and fled from the tomb. They said nothing to anyone, because they were afraid.[a]
[The earliest manuscripts and some other ancient witnesses do not have verses 9–20.]
9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons. 10 She went and told those who had been with him and who were mourning and weeping. 11When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they did not believe it.
12 Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country. 13 These returned and reported it to the rest; but they did not believe them either.
14 Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
19 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, he was taken up into heaven and he sat at the right hand of God. 20 Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.
KJV
8 And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid. 9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils. 10 And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept. 11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. 12 After that he appeared in another form unto two ofthem, as they walked, and went into the country. 13 And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them. 14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs
shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
GJ - Tischendorf promoted two ancient manuscripts (Vaticanus, Sinaiticus) of the New Testament as the best possible ones, far better than the thousands of copies from the Greek, Christian Byzantine Empire. Tischendorf's favorites do not always agree with each other. They also depart from the traditional texts preserved from the earliest days of the Christian faith, which grew first in the Eastern (Byzantine) Roman Empire. When the new translations began dropping the ending of Mark into a footnote, it was the next stage of apostasy. Rationalism first disputed the miracles of the Bible, then the canon of Bible. Tischendorf, Wescott, and Hort sound like a law firm, but this particular trio placed the text of the Bible in doubt, so an anything goes translation was sure to follow.
Here is a lot of statistical evidence about the ending of Mark.
Romans 3:21-25
NNIV21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[a] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[b] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—
NNIV21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in[a] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[b] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished—
KJV
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
GJ - WELS was dying for Biblical support of Universal Objective Justification, which was entirely lacking until the NNIV was invented. Halle University, as it moved from Pietism to Rationalism, gave birth to double-justification via Professor Knapp, whose turgid work is still in print. UOJ passed into mainline Protestantism and the Synodical Conference at the same time, but UOJ had a rough time until 1932. Notice that the second all in the NNIV takes the Apostle Paul by the shoulders and tells him what he should have written in the first place.
1 Corinthians 10:16
NNIV16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?
KJV
16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
GJ - Lutherans teach the Sacraments - or they used to - and the others do not. Communion is an odious word to the anti-Sacrament crowd. They like other words, neutral words, meaningless words. WELS is anti-Sacramental. They begin their Emergent Church embarrassments without the Sacraments and hate to host Holy Communion. See The CORE and CrossWalk in Phoenix for examples. CrossRoads in S. Lyons, Michigan, called the Sacraments "ordinances" when they began. Now that parish is honestly not Lutheran instead of dishonestly Lutheran. WELS will follow CrossRoads in the same direction with the NNIV.
1 Peter 3:20-21
NNIV
20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[a] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
1 Peter 3:21 a - Or but an appeal to God for a clear conscience
KJV
1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
GJ - This wild-hair NNIV reading is similar to other mainline evasions. Why not remove both Sacraments from the Bible? That is not really possible, but one step is mixing up a clear statement of the efficacy of the Word in Holy Baptism.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
GJ - WELS was dying for Biblical support of Universal Objective Justification, which was entirely lacking until the NNIV was invented. Halle University, as it moved from Pietism to Rationalism, gave birth to double-justification via Professor Knapp, whose turgid work is still in print. UOJ passed into mainline Protestantism and the Synodical Conference at the same time, but UOJ had a rough time until 1932. Notice that the second all in the NNIV takes the Apostle Paul by the shoulders and tells him what he should have written in the first place.
1 Corinthians 10:16
NNIV16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?
KJV
16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
GJ - Lutherans teach the Sacraments - or they used to - and the others do not. Communion is an odious word to the anti-Sacrament crowd. They like other words, neutral words, meaningless words. WELS is anti-Sacramental. They begin their Emergent Church embarrassments without the Sacraments and hate to host Holy Communion. See The CORE and CrossWalk in Phoenix for examples. CrossRoads in S. Lyons, Michigan, called the Sacraments "ordinances" when they began. Now that parish is honestly not Lutheran instead of dishonestly Lutheran. WELS will follow CrossRoads in the same direction with the NNIV.
1 Peter 3:20-21
NNIV
20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[a] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
1 Peter 3:21 a - Or but an appeal to God for a clear conscience
KJV
1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
GJ - This wild-hair NNIV reading is similar to other mainline evasions. Why not remove both Sacraments from the Bible? That is not really possible, but one step is mixing up a clear statement of the efficacy of the Word in Holy Baptism.
