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Sunday, July 9, 2017

Higher Things – Quo Vadis? | Steadfast Lutherans - UOJ.
Christian News UOJ. Higher Things UOJ.

Pieter Bruegel the Younger - The Blind Leading the Blind:
Otten's UOJ Tabloid Posting Steadfast Lutheran's UOJ Questioning Higher Things UOJ.
ELDONA's Bishop Heiser was proud to speak for Higher Things years ago, and Klemet Preus (UOJ) as HT prez thanked him.

LCMS UOJ Stormtroopers defended Georgie One-Note's UOJ
on Facebook -
and attacked Justification by Faith in a roundabout way,
yelling Eighth Commandment
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 Former Steadfast editor Tim Rossow called
those who defended Justification by Faith "morons."


Higher Things – Quo Vadis? | Steadfast Lutherans:

"Over the years Higher Things has received the support of many readers of Brothers of John Steadfast as well as of our editors. Sadly and with great regret the editors of the Brothers of John the Steadfast can no longer give such support under its current leadership. Our readers must understand why.

In the summer of 2015 Higher Things published an article by a former Missouri Synod pastor, Greg Eilers, who has gender dysphoria and as of this writing has undergone sexual reassignment surgery. After concerns were raised, Higher Things removed the article in its online form and published a retraction. The retraction contained difficult and confusing verbiage. It was unclear, but recent actions have shown that the direction that originally published the article is still the direction of the organization.
Higher Things has now invited Dr. Daniel van Voorhis, the resident scholar of 1517 The Legacy Project, to be a plenary and breakout speaker at their 2017 summer conferences. 1517 The Legacy Project is what our fathers would have properly identified as a Heterodox Tract and Missionary Society. How do we know this? From what they state about themselves and what they do. They do not identify as Lutheran and fit more the mold of generic protestantism where Lutheranism is just one of many Reformation traditions.  Their Reformation Conference speakers include orthodox theologians, as well those who do not share our confession of faith, and a devotion leader who has disqualified himself from public ministry. One cannot say that this conference is a Free Conference for the discussion of theological issues for 1517 The Legacy Project says:

“This is our legacy as children of the Reformation, and it gives us great cause for both celebration and proclamation in 2017. A celebration of the truths recovered in the Reformation and re-proclamation of them to the world and Church, which seems to be in great danger of forgetting them. To this end, we are excited to announce Here We Still Stand: A Reformation Conference. We have assembled an incredible line-up of over 20 speakers and musicians for this event, and YOU are invited to join us as we examine the men, ideas, and passages of Scripture that sparked the Reformation and yes—to have a huge party!”
The vision of 1517 is listed as:

“1517. The Legacy Project serves churches and the world by providing a message of hope for those broken by the church, supplying theological resources that strengthen congregations, and modeling ways of engaging the culture in a manner that is thoughtful, courageous, and Christ-centered.”

Our readers can discern for themselves what 1517 The Legacy Project is about. We encourage the confessional Lutheran speakers we admire to remove themselves from association with 1517 The Legacy Project. We believe they do not know what they have joined themselves to. However, we do believe that the current leadership of Higher Things knows exactly what it is doing by its repeated difficulties on these topics.

The Scholar in Residence and Director of Curriculum for 1517 The Legacy Project, Dr. van Voorhis interviewed Mr. Eilers and his wife for the “Virtue in the Wasteland” podcast. (Part 1) (Part 2). The interview is long (3 hours), but to be informed our readers should listen to both parts and judge for themselves if the doctrine of the Evangelical Lutheran Church and Natural Law are affirmed. We believe they are rejected. [Is this what we want our children exposed to?] Yet, not only has Higher Things invited Dr. van Voorhis to be a plenary and breakout speaker, 1517 the Legacy Project is a sponsor of this summer’s conferences, with prominent billing on their conference shirts.

Note this quotation from Higher Things President Rev. George Borghardt in a recent post: “We are really excited to have 1517 sponsor our conference shirts. Our organizations share a common love for the gospel and the comfort of troubled consciences.” He continued: “We’re grateful to all of our sponsors for their support as we dare youth to be Lutheran.”

The question must be asked what kind of Lutheran?"

 Eilers could have joined WELS easily,
since they do transgender at the prep, college, seminary,
and pastoral level.


'via Blog this'

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GJ - I rest my case about the Lutheran UOJ sects (ELCA-WELS-ELS-LCMS-CLC sic) going downhill together.

The UOJists despise each other, at least publicly, but they teach the same toxic dogma, that God has declared the entire world forgiven and saved - straight (pardon the pun) outta Halle University's Pietism.

Luke 6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?
40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.


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John C. Drosendahl How much more "out of context" could one take Borghardt? Seriously? While the antichrist is a non-theologian, disrespecting and replacing God's Word with everything else under the sun, the Pres of HT is nothing but a sola scriptura theologian whose shoes I could not possibly fit in (mostly because he has such small feet). 

What part of the distinction between objective justification "salvation is paid for for all" and subjective justification "only believers are receivers of the gift of salvation" do you not comprehend?

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Gregory L. Jackson Haha. I comprehend OJ/SJ all too well - it came from the Calvinist translator of Knapp, a Halle theologian. The burden is on the so-called Lutherans who have abandoned Justification by Faith in the Scriptures and the Book of Concord.

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John C. Drosendahl Oh, I know *you* do...it's others who will run with such nonsense...

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Drew Newman I have heard Pastor Borghardt speak on many occasions and I have to believe this quote was taken out of context and expresses or understanding of objective justification without further explanation that without that work of Christ being applied to the individual it is worthless. Christ did die for all, but all are not saved because they refuse to be saved. If you desire to go to hell rather than enjoy the salvation Christ earned for all God will permit you to go to hell.

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Gregory L. Jackson Drew - "out of context" is a lazy way to excuse the plain words of a false teacher. I believe many in the LCMS are moving far away from HT and Georgie One Note.

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John C. Drosendahl What would the "one note" be?

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Drew Newman As I said, I know George and have heard him speak many times. He has never taught universalism in all the times I've heard him speak. He has never implied that works do not proceed from one who is a believer in Jesus. I have yet, BTW, not met anyone wh...See More

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Gregory L. Jackson John C. Drosendahl - UOJ. Everyone is forgiven. Everyone is saved, Everyone. Everyone. Everyone! Please tune up your listening skills.

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Gregory L. Jackson Drew Newman So this is all about Drew? Do you have trouble concentrating, focusing?

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Drew Newman All about Drew. Are you kidding me?

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Gregory L. Jackson Drew Newman Not at all, Drew. You abandoned the issue to talk about yourself. Irrelevant and immaterial. Is Georgie One Note a false teacher? Lots of LCMS have serious misgivings about Higher Things in general and about him in particular.

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Drew Newman No, George is not a false teacher. I'd suggest that if you think he is you talk WITH him about this instead of talking ABOUT him here with me.

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Gregory L. Jackson Drew Newman He blocked me, Drew. Sad but true. I was talking to him when he blocked me. Besides, I do not need to talk to someone who publishes his false doctrine. See the Large Catechism, if you have one, on the 10 Commandments, 8th. It's there.

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John C. Drosendahl i just spent the week with George, and clearly you do not know him, nor his preaching and teaching whatsoever. he teaches justification of the whole world as did Isaiah, as did Paul in Romans. Your argument is with God, not with George or anyone else. ...See More

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Gregory L. Jackson This would help several of you. Please read it at your leisure.

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John C. Drosendahl Greg, you haven't a shred of evidence of "false doctrine". All I see here, charitably so, is your own misunderstanding. I suggest you read Romans and see if the Spirit is not crystal clear in inspiring Paul to teach justification of "the many" and the world.

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Gregory L. Jackson John C. Drosendahl I listened to what he said and there is plenty of evidence of his poor, incompetent, and misguided leadership/

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John C. Drosendahl The author of the above also needs to repent of the very false charge implied that George is seemingly stuck in his Romanist upbringing. If you had heard him present as many times as I have on how set against the church of the antichrist he is, you would not be making such a foolish charge.

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John C. Drosendahl You have listened to a few snippets, out of context no doubt, and have set yourself up as judge, in clear violation of the 8th commandment as Luther explains it in the Large Catechism. It is you, sir, who need to repent, confess, and receive absolution...See More

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Gregory L. Jackson He sounds exactly like Pope Francis, the material cited on the original post, which the Enthusiasts are busy ignoring.

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John C. Drosendahl I'm sure you sound like roman catlicks too whenever you say "God is love" as they do, but it would be foolish of me to accuse you of heresy just because the roman blind hog finds the same occasional acorn that you find.

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Gregory L. Jackson John C. Drosendahl John, calm down. I am worried about you now. To throw slander at someone falsely (see the graphic) is itself slanderous. But I am used to it from the UOJ Stormtrooper.

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John C. Drosendahl I don't know what the UOJ Stormtrooper is. I'm throwing no "slander". I'm doing what you thought you were doing but weren't. I'm pointing to your words here and telling you God has not given you to set yourself up as semi-public judge. Clearly you are unqualified for such judgments, based on the spurious charges, and pittance of evidence upon which you want to base your wrong conclusions.

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Gregory L. Jackson John C. Drosendahl You are pretty frothy when you are not posting dumb jokes on FB.

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John C. Drosendahl I've known George personally for the better part of 15 years. I've worked with him and know his teaching pretty much inside and out. what are your credentials, wrt George, that makes you much more of an expert than me. I'll be glad to defer to you if you know him so much better than me.

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Gregory L. Jackson John C. Drosendahl For the Left, everyone is personal. All about feelings and such.

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John C. Drosendahl I'll grant you the truthfulness of my jokes being dumb. But there is no froth, nor lack of calmness. Just straightforward keeping of the 8th commandment as best as I can.

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Gregory L. Jackson John C. Drosendahl We can all see that, John. We are in awe of your modesty, your penetrating wit, your grasp of UOJ.

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John C. Drosendahl It's not about how I "feel" one way or another. i could give you a long list of George's faults, and I'm sure he could give you and even longer list of mine. It's about objective facts, of which you have very little. Put up or shut up. You post a bit out of context, jump to an egregious conclusion, and then are surprised when one asks for more context or evidence, which you allude to , but clearly don't have.

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Gregory L. Jackson Luther set me up to judge false doctrine, and the Concordists thought his comments were worth publishing. Once again, read it carefully.

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Gregory L. Jackson John C. Drosendahl - Read the post. It is there.

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Gregory L. Jackson And this - http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/.../rolf...

Ichabod the Glory Has Departed is dedicated to…
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John C. Drosendahl NOBODY is ever in awe of me, for any reason. for that I'm sure. I've tried to get into Christian news for years to no avail. But nice try at skirting "the facts". 

I read the post, three times. it's a "snippet". it's out of context. it's a very tiny part of everything George Borghardt teaches. To jump to wild conclusions from such a miniscule piece of evidence embarrasses you.

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Gregory L. Jacksonhttp://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/.../higher...

Ichabod the Glory Has Departed is dedicated to dealing with the issues of apostasy in American…
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John C. Drosendahl As for the 8th commandment from the Large Catechism, I just read it "in it's entireity", not just the snippet you want to focus on. Read the parts for yourself which address your error of setting yourself up as judge when God has not given you to do so, particularly when your evidence is so shoddy.

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Gregory L. Jackson I am sure you will name those parts in an upcoming FB joke, John C. Drosendahl.

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John C. Drosendahl I've read also the Surburg and BJS spurrious  (sic) claims of 3 degrees of separation between HT and some who teach false doctrine. I'm sure I have a couple of facebook friends whose theology is not pure. You are friends with me. That places you one degree closer to heretics. I should unfriend you because of such a close association with such dangersome folks.

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John C. Drosendahl You know me well enough, Greg, to assume correctly that I find little that is "off limits" to humor. 

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