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| "Faith is an organ," says LQ's Nadler, fainting from the strain of his outbursts. |
Rev. David R. Boisclair (Drboisclair) Advanced Member Username: Drboisclair Post Number: 673 Registered: 1-2002 |
Thank you, Steve Schmidt! At least Luther is quoted properly here. Luther is misused by those who deny the scriptural doctrine of Objective Justification. They make use of Luther like other errorists who quote Luther against himself. Luther predicted that this would happen. They lie that say that we who believe, teach, and confess Objective Justification deny Justification by faith alone. Objective Justification, which is scriptural (2 Cor. 5:19, Romans 4:25; 5:18) cannot be accused of being a Pietistic, Synergistic, or Arminian doctrine as Ichabod alleges. It is a biblical doctrine that is centered in Christ not in man as the doctrine of Ichabod is with their unscriptural exaltation of faith to be a condition that induces God to forgive an individual. Faith is not a condition but a God-created receiving organ. |
GJ - I was going to list some basic samples of dishonest conversations among Lutherans, so Nadler stimulated an earlier listing.
- It is widely known that the Reformation's theme was Justification by Faith. No scholar has tried to prove that Luther or St. Paul nursed a passion for Objective Justification.
- The disciples of Stephan and Walther pretend the migration was a battle for religious freedom, a re-establishment of Lutheran doctrine. The Stephan sex cult was Pietistic, not unlike the Wheat Flour Messiah of Sweden, whose mind was righteous and whose body was adulterous. His followers revered Jannson and kept his possessions as religious relics.
- The Hive speaks constantly of the "doctrine of Objective Justification and Subjective Justification," but there is no such language or doctrine in the Bible.
- The OJ revelation is so sublime, so mysterious that no one in the cult can solve the issue of when OJ happened - or how many times it happened.
- The OJ guru David Scaer has solemnly stated that OJ is the peculiar dogma of Midwestern Lutherans. However, his OJ partner Robert Preus sought out non-Lutheran Evangelicals and Calvinists for help in his OJ battle against WAM II.
- WELS-ELS-LCMS! They love to boast about how conservative they are, but they share the same basic concept of all mainline denominations (an honest category for the "conservative" Lutherans too) - God's grace has already pardoned the entire world.
- They pretend the WELS-ELS-LCMS leaders have always taught OJ, but WELS-LCMS officially taught Justification by Faith until the OJ Hive took over, step by step.
- These groups are conservative and Bible, swearing to the Scriptures as the ruling norm, the norma normata. Wonderful - let them teach about forgiveness and salvation without their philosophical terms, borrowed from sects and cults.
