Thanks to Mark Jeske (WELS), Matt Harrison (LCMS), Mark Schroeder (WELS). Change or Die! on October 10th, 2019 - ELCA Pays for Abortion Genocide. LCMS-WELS - "No Problem!"

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 The LutherQueasies finally noticed that one could register as male, female, or other. Did they notice "commitee"? I doubt it.

Greek Lesson Mark 12:18ff and Mark 13:ff

Parser - tells us the I.D. of the word

Lenski's Mark Commentary - download as a PDF

Mark 12

18 και ερχονται σαδδουκαιοι προς αυτον οιτινες λεγουσιν αναστασιν μη ειναι και επηρωτησαν αυτον λεγοντες

19 διδασκαλε μωσης εγραψεν ημιν οτι εαν τινος αδελφος αποθανη και καταλιπη γυναικα και τεκνα μη αφη ινα λαβη ο αδελφος αυτου την γυναικα αυτου και εξαναστηση σπερμα τω αδελφω αυτου

20 επτα αδελφοι ησαν και ο πρωτος ελαβεν γυναικα και αποθνησκων ουκ αφηκεν σπερμα

21 και ο δευτερος ελαβεν αυτην και απεθανεν και ουδε αυτος αφηκεν σπερμα και ο τριτος ωσαυτως

22 και ελαβον αυτην οι επτα και ουκ αφηκαν σπερμα, εσχατη παντων απεθανεν και η γυνη

23 εν τη ουν αναστασει οταν αναστωσιν τινος αυτων εσται γυνη οι γαρ επτα εσχον αυτην γυναικα

24 και αποκριθεις ο ιησους ειπεν αυτοις ου δια τουτο πλανασθε μη ειδοτες τας γραφας μηδε την δυναμιν του θεου

25 οταν γαρ εκ νεκρων αναστωσιν ουτε γαμουσιν ουτε γαμισκονται αλλ εισιν ως αγγελοι οι εν τοις ουρανοις

26 περι δε των νεκρων οτι εγειρονται ουκ ανεγνωτε εν τη βιβλω μωσεως επι της βατου ως ειπεν αυτω ο θεος λεγων εγω ο θεος αβρααμ, και ο θεος ισαακ και ο θεος ιακωβ,

Trinitarian implication. John 1.

27 ουκ εστιν ο θεος νεκρων αλλα θεος ζωντων - υμεις ουν πολυ πλανασθε

28 και προσελθων εις των γραμματεων, ακουσας αυτων συζητουντων, ειδως οτι καλως αυτοις απεκριθη, επηρωτησεν αυτον "ποια εστιν πρωτη πασων εντολη"

29 ο δε ιησους απεκριθη αυτω οτι πρωτη πασων των εντολων - ακουε ισραηλ κυριος, ο θεος ημων, κυριος εις εστιν

30 και αγαπησεις κυριον τον θεον σου εξ ολης της καρδιας σου και εξ ολης της ψυχης σου και εξ ολης της διανοιας σου και εξ ολης της ισχυος σου, αυτη πρωτη εντολη

31 και δευτερα ομοια αυτη αγαπησεις τον πλησιον σου ως σεαυτον - μειζων τουτων αλλη εντολη ουκ εστιν

32 και ειπεν αυτω ο γραμματευς καλως διδασκαλε επ αληθειας ειπας οτι εις εστιν θεος και ουκ εστιν αλλος πλην αυτου

33 και το αγαπαν αυτον εξ ολης της καρδιας και εξ ολης της συνεσεως και εξ ολης της ψυχης και εξ ολης της ισχυος και το αγαπαν τον πλησιον ως εαυτον, πλειον εστιν παντων των ολοκαυτωματων και των θυσιων

holocaust

34 και ο ιησους, ιδων αυτον, οτι νουνεχως απεκριθη, ειπεν αυτω ου μακραν ει απο της βασιλειας του θεου; και ουδεις ουκετι ετολμα αυτον επερωτησαι

35 και αποκριθεις ο ιησους ελεγεν, διδασκων εν τω ιερω, πως λεγουσιν οι γραμματεις οτι ο χριστος υιος εστιν δαβιδ

36 αυτος γαρ δαβιδ ειπεν, εν τω πνευματι τω αγιω, ειπεν ο κυριος τω κυριω μου καθου εκ δεξιων μου εως αν θω τους εχθρους σου υποποδιον των ποδων σου

37 αυτος ουν δαβιδ λεγει αυτον κυριον, και ποθεν υιος αυτου εστιν και ο πολυς οχλος ηκουεν αυτου ηδεως

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38 και ελεγεν αυτοις εν τη διδαχη αυτου βλεπετε απο των γραμματεων των θελοντων εν στολαις περιπατειν και ασπασμους εν ταις αγοραις

39 και πρωτοκαθεδριας εν ταις συναγωγαις και πρωτοκλισιας εν τοις δειπνοις

40 οι κατεσθιοντες τας οικιας των χηρων και προφασει μακρα προσευχομενοι ουτοι; ληψονται περισσοτερον κριμα

41 και καθισας ο ιησους κατεναντι του γαζοφυλακιου εθεωρει πως ο οχλος βαλλει χαλκον εις το γαζοφυλακιον και πολλοι πλουσιοι εβαλλον πολλα

42 και ελθουσα μια χηρα πτωχη εβαλεν λεπτα δυο ο εστιν κοδραντης

two lepta are not much and make up a quadrans, English term - widow's mite

43 και προσκαλεσαμενος τους μαθητας αυτου λεγει αυτοις αμην λεγω υμιν οτι η χηρα αυτη η πτωχη πλειον παντων βεβληκεν των βαλοντων εις το γαζοφυλακιον

44 παντες γαρ εκ του περισσευοντος αυτοις εβαλον αυτη δε εκ της υστερησεως αυτης παντα οσα ειχεν εβαλεν ολον τον βιον αυτης

Mark 13 

1 και εκπορευομενου αυτου εκ του ιερου λεγει αυτω εις των μαθητων αυτου διδασκαλε ιδε ποταποι λιθοι και ποταπαι οικοδομαι

2 και ο ιησους αποκριθεις ειπεν αυτω βλεπεις ταυτας τας μεγαλας οικοδομας ου μη αφεθη λιθος επι λιθω ος ου μη καταλυθη

3 και καθημενου αυτου εις το ορος των ελαιων κατεναντι του ιερου επηρωτων αυτον κατ ιδιαν πετρος και ιακωβος και ιωαννης και ανδρεας

4 ειπε ημιν ποτε ταυτα εσται και τι το σημειον οταν μελλη παντα ταυτα συντελεισθαι

5 ο δε ιησους αποκριθεις αυτοις ηρξατο λεγειν βλεπετε μη τις υμας πλανηση

6 πολλοι γαρ ελευσονται επι τω ονοματι μου λεγοντες οτι εγω ειμι και πολλους πλανησουσιν

I AM - John, not I am he.

7 οταν δε ακουσητε πολεμους και ακοας πολεμων μη θροεισθε δει γαρ γενεσθαι αλλ ουπω το τελος

polemics, 

rumors (more the sense of hearing something) report, faith comes from hearing the Report, Is 53 and Romans 10.

8 εγερθησεται γαρ εθνος επι εθνος και βασιλεια επι βασιλειαν και εσονται σεισμοι κατα τοπους, και εσονται λιμοι και ταραχαι, αρχαι ωδινων ταυτα

seismograph, topology, 

The LCMS-ELS-WELS Pietist OJists Will Not Condemn the ELCA Pietist OJists. How Fast the LutherQueasies Are in Condemning Justification by Faith!

These three have grown fatter, not wiser, in office.

Alan Lubeck (1431) Senior Member Username: 1431 Post Number: 2007 Registered: 11-2004	Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2019 - 9:31 am:       Were not talking outward here. You change the Gospel to something else...something compatible to the likes of the ELCA, then the church is dead. There's only one Gospel that gives life...and church growth gimmicks that take the focus off Word and Sacrament ain't it.
Daniel Gorman (Heinrich) Senior Member Username: Heinrich Post Number: 4084 Registered: 11-2004	Posted on Monday, September 23, 2019 - 12:47 am:       Yes, apostate "churches" may appear to thrive in terms of "nickels and noses" but, inwardly, they are spiritually dead. They have the outward marks of apostasy from the gospel (Gal. 1: 6-9).
Daniel Gorman (Heinrich) Senior Member Username: Heinrich Post Number: 4085 Registered: 11-2004	Posted on Monday, September 23, 2019 - 7:08 am:       Pr. Preus: "To speak at a conference where heterodox speakers will be speaking implies no fellowship with them. On the other hand, if you speak at a conference that features a woman who is identified as a pastor you might be implying that you acknowledge her to be a pastor. If so, your confession has been compromised." What about a male "pastor" of an apostate ELCA congregation that worships the feminist god rather than the Holy Trinity? If a speaker is introduced as a "Reverend", wouldn't the term "Reverend" necessarily imply a heterodox speaker is the pastor of a Christian church?

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The Path to Understanding Justification provoked an immediate, multi-synod, coordinated attack, but Jeske's gay liberation abortion sales-pitch barely gets a mild, tentative, languid, half-hearted, apathetic response from LQ. The rest of the mild-Lutheran forums are silent.

The Road Well-Traveled

Two roads converged in a woods, and we—
We ran towards Hell with pious glee. 
And that has made all the difference.

(Apologies to Robert Frost)

The current disaster may not be much different from previous ones, where the truth of the Reformation was swallowed up in lies, distortions, corruption, and mass murder. But time may be running out for this evil, adulterous generation, for Planet Earth.

Recent months have witnessed a multi-pronged attack on Justification by Faith, using Christian News, LutherQuest (sic), and the Judas Goat skills of WELS Pastor Steve Spencer.

The collective wisdom of Team Spencer could not develop a coherent reply to the Scriptures - Genesis 15:6, Romans 4, Galatians - but made a lot of noise trying, then fell silent.

The unfortunate truth is that the Pietism of the older ELCA traditions has merged with the Pietism of the Walther-Stephan sex cult, which brought Objective Justification and syphilis to St. Louis and Perryville, Missouri.

If I complete the booklet on Lutherdom in America, it will show how Pietism united them all and ultimately merges them de facto in the current Thrivent-Siebert-Jeske Triple Alliance.

Is everyone deaf to the hysteria generated by the Objective Justification Stormtroopers and the ennui expressed about the Two Heidis ELCA-LCMS-WELS-ELS Change or Die! fiasco?

 ELCA Pastor Heidi Neumark will teach WELS and LCMS pastors and laity how to follow her example.

 ELCA Bishop Guy Erwin and his husband Rob Flynn

 Keep diversity selective to make it work its magic.

 The ELCA Presiding Bishop and her Secretary dictate the progress of the synod, whose monetary influence can be felt in Thrivent (Jeske), Siebert (Jeske), and Time of Grace (Jeske). Look upon Mark's mighty works and despair!

 Sammy graduated transgender from the WELS School of Ministry, Martin Luther College in New Ulm.

 Decades of coordinated work have yielded the Evan-jellyfish of Church and Change, promoted to Change or Die!