I Shocked Various Lutheran Pastors, Telling Them - "Saddleback is Babtist."No!

Robert Schuller plagiarized one occultist and was honored for promoting Napoleon Hill, a lying, criminal, self-styled "business genius". Schuller insisted on dropping denominational names so Saddleback went one step more - nothing about "church"! WELS and LCMS went for the apostasy package like a hungry fish for the worm.

Christina and I spotted Saddleback on our California tour. We saw "Purpose Driven Drive" and concluded the church was there. I did not know Warren was a Babtist until I saw the immersion pool outside.

The "confessional, conservative, orthodox, quia" WELS-ELS-LCMS-CLC sects are very fond of Warren's programs and approaches. Other idiots have provided their own spin on Warren's spin on Schuller's spin on Norman Vincent Peale's plagiarism of another book.

"Was the Rev. Norman Vincent Peale, father of the “believe and succeed” theology sweeping American Protestantism, a plagiarist inspired by the occult?

A former Peale protege and a Unitarian minister think so.

In the current issue of the journal Lutheran Quarterly, the Rev. John Gregory Tweed of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., and the Rev. George D. Exoo of Pittsburgh write that many of Peale’s uplifting affirmations originated with an “obscure teacher of occult science” named Florence Scovel Shinn. Lutheran Quarterly is a juried academic journal of theology and history, with a national circulation of 1,000.

After comparing his books to hers, the authors cite scores of specific instances in which Peale and Shinn not only think alike but use similar or identical phrases.

Tweed began investigating the Shinn-Peale link in 1990. Friends who credited Shinn for their success had given Tweed her book, “The Game of Life and How to Play It.”

“I came across the phrase, ‘When one door shuts, another door opens’ - one of the great Peale battle cries,” said Tweed.

Shinn, who died in 1940, drew on mystical sources dating to the ancient Egyptian philosopher Hermes Trismegistus and the secrets of Freemasonry, as delineated in “The Kybalion,” published in 1908 at a Masonic lodge."

Rick Warren

"He also studied at Fuller Theological Seminary in Pasadena, California and earned a Doctor of Ministry."

 Warren is on the Matt Harrison diet and doing well.

Like his hero Robert Schuller, Warren made his church stance as vague and faith-neutral as possible, much like the WELS-ELS-LCMS today. He published the fact that a conference at Schuller's church (now a Catholic cathedral) changed his life.