Friday, September 7, 2007

WELS and Universalism


Mschottey has left a new comment on your post "FIC Promotes UOJ, Again":

UOJ Is not simply that all men are saved, even the ungodly. That is not taught, as i'm sure you very well know, in the WELS.

UOJ is that Christ died once for all men. He did not die only for the godly, rather he himself said that he did not come for the healthy but the sick. He did not only come for the faithful, nor those who would one day become faithful.

Christ died for all mankind, if he had not passages like "For God so loved the WORLD" and "God wants ALL men to be saved..." would be untrue.

Because of Christ and the work of justification all men on earth have been forgiven. It is the work of the Holy Spirit to instill saving faith in the hearts of unbelievers. Many reject the Holy Spirit, they would like a better way. But Christ died even for those who would reject them.

"While we were still sinners, Christ died for us"

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GJ - I know very well that the Wisconsin Synod had an evangelism campaign where the banners read, "I am saved, just like you." That is Universalism.

Forgiveness is salvation, so universal forgiveness is universal salvation. UOJ is also pure Enthusiasm.

The Wisconsin Synod loves to work with ELCA, whose Universalism and ecumenism are openly proclaimed. WELS hides its joint work with ELCA but still loves to be in bed with ELCA.