Rev. Mouse Unleashed: Frog in Kettle Simmers

The Frog in the Kettle is a Church Growth book promoted by WELS to get congregations and pastors involved in Reformed doctrine and practice.


Rev. A. Nony Mouse has left a new comment on your post "UOJ and Church Growth Presentations, Disguised as...":

You wrote: "Valleskey is the Fuller-trained liberal who espouses UOJ and evangelism."

So, if you espouse evangelism you're a liberal? Dr. Jackson, what have you ever done that could be considered evangelism? And please don't mention this blog. All I've ever seen here is slander and libel.

On another note, if you condemn these men for the schools they attended, you should be condemned most of all--Augustana? Waterloo? Yale? Notre Dame?

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GJ - Anyone who has preached a sermon according to the Scriptures, taught according to the Word, baptized, or communed someone has spread the Gospel. I am surprised Mouse knows so little of Lutheran doctrine. In fact, that is why so many Lutheran ministers are discouraged and demoralized. They listen to the doctrine of demons and think they need a a palace with a 20 acre parking lot to be considered evangelists. The apostates are only gathering more materialistic apostates around them, giving them what their itching ears want to hear.

People who spread the doctrine of Fuller Seminary in the name of evangelism are apostates, not liberals. I should have used a more precise term.

I attended accredited schools when I was a member of the LCA. The Wisconsin sect looks down on all other sects and their schools but their leaders run off to Fuller, Willow Creek, and Concordia Seminary for training. I suggest that Mouse go after Kelm for being a WELS pastor and earning a Concordia D.Min..

Here are some other known Fuller Seminary alumni from WELS:
David Valleskey
Frosty Bivens
Wally Oelhaven
Fred Adrian
Larry Olson
Reuel Schulz
Harry Haggedorn
James Huebner
Robert Hartman
Joel Gerlach
Norm Berg.

Rev. Mouse should condemn me for attending the unaccredited Sausage Factory in Mequon. The faculty condemned Reformed doctrine in one classroom and promoted it in another. I count at least three Mequon professors who have studied at Fuller Seminary, according to their own boasts.

Rev. Mouse - when you write to these gentleman, please copy me. I will post your messages, one and all, to Ichabod. The readers will patiently wait for your response.

Perhaps you would like to read the hundreds of quotations from orthodox Lutheran authors. All you see is slander and libel? Pehaps that is all you see. I will concede that statement about what you see.

LQ fanatics condemned me for graduating from Notre Dame as an LCA member. Meanwhile, their favorite faculty members (Concordia Seminary, Ft. Wayne) were earned doctorates from the same school. When I pointed that out, they fell silent.