Tuesday, June 30, 2009

Joe Krohn's Free Blog





Ichabod is Joe Krohn's free blog. For those who are new to this blog, Joe is a WELS member, a buddy of Kudu Don Patterson, and a promoter of The Church From Scratch in Round Rock, Texas, where Doebler channels Driscoll. Joe used to belong to CrossWalk in Phoenix, the non-WELS congregation from which Church and Chicanery Pastor Jeff Gunn is trying to escape. Gunn hopes to flee to Wisconsin Lutheran College, the nursing mother of Church and Change. We all know the birth father of C and C - Old Scratch hisself.

Joe had a Rock N Roll blog to promote his agenda, but he erased it. His Ichabod comments are entertaining and instructive, because they betray the thoughts of Church and Chicaneries everywhere. Sometimes he even signs them.

Like all Church Shrinkers, Joe is a UOJ Stormtrooper, always trying to justify the erroneous opinion that God declared the whole world forgiven of its sin, without the Word, the Means of Grace, or faith.

He asked about my use of OJ in the first edition of Catholic, Lutheran, Protestant. That has been explained many times before, and the new edition is available for free as a PDF download - either from Lulu.com or from gljackson.com. He can buy the book from his own publishing house, Northwestern Publishing House in Milwaukee.

I publish for everyone, not secretly or on secretive listserves. The issue is not what I think, but what the Word of God teaches and the Book of Concord confesses.

Many people still believe, as I did once, that OJ was a peculiar synonym for the Atonement. Various WELS laity pressed me to study the issue, so I learned otherwise. OJ, called UOJ in WELS, or General Justification in Hoenecke - means that every single person in the world has been forgiven by God: Hottentots (E. Preuss), Hitler, the people who died in the Flood. Everyone in Hell is a guilt-free saint (WELS Kokomo Statements).

The Atonement means Christ died for the sins of the world. The Atonement is not justification, as Robert Preus stated in his last book, Justification and Rome.

Some well established Christian doctrines clash with the weirdness of UOJ: Original Sin, the efficacy of the Word, the Means of Grace, Law and Gospel, justification by faith.

UOJ goes well with Universalism and Church Growthism.

The Sacraments
Joe reminds me of students who phone me without reading the syllabus. That just happened as we drove to the Hoover Dam. I got two phone calls from the same student about the upcoming assignment. "Have you read the syllabus?" No. I parked the van and explained the assignment to the student.

Really Joe. I have all my books linked to Lulu and my domain. Everything is there for free. I have 2,700 posts, which have covered the Word and Sacraments many times. Doing a little homework before posting would be a good idea. The Google search window on the blog works very well. It is the only way I find some material from the past.

Sacrament, like the word Trinity, is a non-Biblical word used to encapsulate the content of many different passages. Ordination is called a sacrament in the Apology - "the best work of Melanchthon," as one Lutheran said recently.

I find it odd that some Lutheran pastors declare, "Ordination is not a sacrament." I dealt with that topic a bit in my last sermon, which I saved as a videotape file (free) and in the printed version on two (2) blogs. I collect Lutheran quotations to help everyone in their sermon preparation.

The Church and Chicanery pastors should do the same - post the printed version of their sermons. They should also offer a link to the original from Driscoll, Groeschel, or their other favorite false teachers.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

If WELS did not have UOJ, they would need to invent it to cover their wayward practice of providing a home for wolves.

Anonymous said...

WELS Kennel Club = Home of pure and hybrid wolves.

Pastors faithful to the Word not allowed.

Brett Meyer said...

I just completed a discussion of UOJ on Bailing Water where Joe was a contributor. This is one of Joe's statements, "You can't separate Law and Gospel. You can't separate Subjective from Universal. Brett is going to continue to spew this since he can't seem to put it in context. Anyone will draw this conclusion with blinders on."

JK
June 16, 2009 6:05 PM

It is unfortunate that Walther's The Proper Distinction Between Law and Gospel does not seem to be listed as approved reference material in the New Age WELS churches. Here is the faithful book online http://lutherantheology.com/uploads/works/walther/LG/

Other tastey nuggets of wisdom can be read in the discussion. Joe, at one point you even made the statement, "Maybe we all have it wrong." When you denied making that remark concerning the doctrine of Justification I had to remind you of the context and referenced the quotation. When the UOJ defenders ran out of excuses for their false doctrine they attempted other ways of discrediting me as you will plainly see. The apostates of UOJ throw Matt. 18 around like it was pixie dust but watch how they make false accusations and never provide quotes or references to back them up. The discussion can be read here http://bailingwater.blogspot.com/2009/05/synod-convention.html and starts with a WELSian cry for help on May 29, 2009 at 2:24PM. UOJ is a false doctrine with no Scriptural or Confessional defense.

In Christ,
Brett Meyer

LutherRocks said...

Greg,

I feel so built up. Thanks!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but atonement to me means the debt for sin (death) has been paid. This makes atonement and forgiveness an interchangeable word. As in 'your debt has been forgiven'. As far as the souls in hell being forgiven or saved, well that's just a stupid thing to say. Those souls have been judged and damned for all eternity. End of story. They had their chance.

I will go and reread the Kokomo statements again like a good Lutheran student now. No WELSian should believe this garbage.

As far as this blog being my free blog; well that's a weird conclusion. I am basking in Ichabod publicity today though. I got my own titled post again! Woo Hoo! That just goes to show ya anyone one can have a free blog these days.

JK

Brett Meyer said...

JK asks, "Correct me if I'm wrong" then he states, "This makes atonement and forgiveness an interchangeable word."

Dear Joe, you're wrong.