The famous Black Sox scandal has been remembered with a boy running up to Shoeless Jackson, saying tearfully, "Say it ain't so, Joe."
Now I hear from my vast network of informants that Joe Krohn's Rock N Roll group has been dumped from Rock N Roll Church. Why? His good buddy Kudu Don Patterson told Doebler to get better results. In spite of all the insights from Church and Change, plagiarized sermons, and grants from various places, Rock N Roll has only 30 attending church.
The Church from Scratch, now known as Rock and Roll, has obtained the services of Dave Bauer, Martin Luther College, to make the contemporary services even more contemptuous, or is that contemporary?
Bauer has been working with Pastor Rick in Corona, California. Pastor Rick is very big on Church and Change, Leonard Sweet. Not so big on Ichabod.
They still use the URL of http://www.churchfromscratch.net. Put that in your browser and you will get Christ the Rock. Old Scratch is a nickname for Satan. In modern lingo, scratch is money. Both are fitting, because this latest experiment is dependent on scratch - synod subsidies and foundation grants. They wanted $200,000 from the Antioch Foundation this year and got a measly $20,000.
Check out the Rock N Roll websty. Here are some clues:
Vision, Purpose, Process, and Values - "Centered on Christ, Living with Purpose." Doebler is probably influenced by Rick Warren and Purpose-Driven Pietism. The Pietists are always anxious to produce results in people through their cell groups.
Old Scratch has cell groups. The vision is pure Pietism. There is a little tilt toward Lutheran doctrine, but Doebler uses Word, Baptism, and "Holy Supper." The Reformed can tolerate the word baptism but they are allergic to Holy Communion. Best not offend those who deny the Real Presence.
The Conference of Pussycats met at Patterson's church to confirm the value and orthodoxy of Rock N Roll. That is like the Federal Reserve folks meeting at Goldman Sachs to make sure everything is honest and above board.
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JR has left a new comment on your post "Say It Ain't So, Joe - Krohn Rock Group Dumped at ...":
Allow me to speak in C&C terms: the product offered by Pastor Doebler is not selling. The same message of self-improvement can be had at any number of other mega-churches in the area that have bigger buildings, better music, and more programs. There needs to be a differentiating factor that compels people to go to CTR instead of Hyde Park or Shoreline.
Here's an idea: try preaching the Gospel and administering the Sacraments. It's so crazy it just might work!
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A good old German polka band beats a rock and roll band every time. I guess that is too ethnic for WELS.
The hatred and slander on this site makes me sick. There is no excuse for this, especially coming from Christian men and women.
The devil's tent is being replaced with a foolish man's house upon the sand. What value? What orthodoxy? The LWMS circuit that I serve gave valuable dollars so that Christ The Rock could purchase equipment to enrich their services. Now that the Rock N Roll is gone, what are they going to so with all of the instruments?(oops I mean "equipment")
from WELS church lady
Sir,
I'm not sure how to feel after visiting your site. It doesn't add up to me. You can't really believe that the majority of your posts are not sinful. You tear down young men who are preparing themselves for ministry because they are dancing and singing to a song, yet it is okay for you to paste pictures of our brothers' in Christ heads on the body of cartoons? Clearly that is not glorifying our Lord and Savior. You put pictures of people's families up on your website and mock them and slander their name.
Whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it ALL to the glory of God.
ALL sir, even your blog. I get you disagree, but surely there is a God-pleasing way to go about this.
Allow me to speak in C&C terms: the product offered by Pastor Doebler is not selling. The same message of self-improvement can be had at any number of other mega-churches in the area that have bigger buildings, better music, and more programs. There needs to be a differentiating factor that compels people to go to CTR instead of Hyde Park or Shoreline.
Here's an idea: try preaching the Gospel and administering the Sacraments. It's so crazy it just might work!
When do your informants check in? Every year or so? This is OLD news.
Mighty Mouse
>>You put pictures of people's families up on your website and mock them and slander their name.<<
This sounds like a slanderous statement in and of itself. What pictures of people's families?
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