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Lights, Camera, Lutheran! Shrinker!
The Show: Each Sunday at the 10:30 a.m. service, the sanctuary at St. Marcus Lutheran Church in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, becomes a television studio for "Time of Grace," a 30-minute TV program featuring the Rev. Mark Jeske. The senior pastor delivers his sermon not only to his congregants, but also to three TV cameras that send his words into homes across the U.S. "It's a sermon delivered by a friend," says Jeske. The show also incorporates Bible study with Jeske (pictured), filmed in a studio.The Spark: "Time of Grace" was an idea suggested by Washington, D.C.-area businessman Bruce Eberle, who sat on the Wisconsin Lutheran College board of regents with Jeske. "Bruce said, 'Lutherans have a great message that America needs to hear,'" recalls Jeske. "So, he formed a board of directors and helped raise $750,000 to launch the project. We taped the first broadcasts in August of 2001."
The Impact: About 350,000 people view Jeske's weekly message and countless others go online to watch the show or read Jeske's blog. "The Bible tells us that all faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the Word of Christ," says Jeske. "By getting the Gospel message into people's homes, it will work its way into their hearts."
Read more information on "Time of Grace," including local TV listings, links to Jeske's blog and his YouTube page.
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mjleyrer has left a new comment on your post "Eberle, Shrinker, Backed Jeske":
Brett,
I might not be in agreement with all their doctrinal statements but their (sic) not going to hell because of them. Thus making Jeske's work OK in my book.
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Unlike most pastors, Jeske is doing outreach.
So is Satan, he's always busy with outreach. It's the doctrine that is taught and practiced that determines if someone is from God or the devil - a faithful pastor or a perverse hireling.
1 John 4:1, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."
Therefore, do no outreach!
Oh come on, comparing Jeske to a false prophet is complete crap. That is such strong language, 'false prophet', it's like saying he's worshiping Baal or something. Give me a break.
Anonymous at 3:54pm, who said people shouldn't perform outreach?
mjleyrer, where in this posting did anyone compared Jeske to a false prophet?
KNEEJERK: knee-jerk /ˈniˌdʒɜrk/ –adjective
1. of or pertaining to a knee-jerk.
2. Informal. reacting according to a certain habitual manner; unthinking: a knee-jerk liberal.
Where is everyone today? Looks like even Pastor GJ is busy with other venues.
In response to mjleyrer,
Who said ,"Change or die?" Who said,"Those stick churches?"
Who is deeply involved with the liberal section of the LCMS?(meaning not the Confessional LCMS folks)
Yes, Jeske made fun of Close Communion. Does he know that WELS teaches against unionism? Perhaps Pastor GJ could provide a link to that Concordia Mequon Speech.
Is he ashamed of being Lutheran? I am not ashamed of being WELS despite the issues with money, C&C, and Kokomo.
mjleyer, help us Confessional Lutherans. We will start our own C&C. How about Conservative And Confessional!
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
How about a fair and balanced presentation for a change. Surely even Pastor Jeske does right things the right way at times. Then comment on those things as well as his lack of confessionalism. This blog would earn a lot more credibility that way.
This blog has no credibility because those who know the author know he doesn't have an ounce of personal credibility or integrity. Why would anyone take anything he says seriously? Jackson might speak the truth, but those who know him won't listen because he has lied so much before!
Brett,
I believe the part of THIS passage: 1 John 4:1, "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." would suggest that you were comparing him to a false prophet. It wasn't a knee jerk reaction. You have to admit it sounds like you were comparing him to a false prophet.
mjleyrer, in the big picture of what I've said about Mark Jeske on this blog and elsewhere I don't disagree with you. My confession is that he is a false teacher, a false prophet. But in this posting I didn't call him that in fact I was responding to the comment which said, "unlike most pastors, Jeske is doing outreach" as though what he teaches doesn't matter as much as the fact he's doing outreach. My attempt is to temper that thought with the fact that it is more important what is being taught, doctrine, than that something is being delivered to the masses. So you'll see in my initial post that I don't claim Jeske is anything but that we need to test the spirits to see if they are of God.
I would contend that a thorough knowledge the of theology of Scripture and a quia subscription to the Lutheran Confessions are prerequisites to being able to test the spirits correctly. Neither of which you claim to have from your comments on this board. mjleyrer, you need to continue to test what you see and read on this blog and everywhere else. You also need to develop a quia subscription to the Lutheran Confessions and through that a better grasp of theology. Lack of either will leave you in the wind.
mjleyrer, are you in agreement with the doctrinal statements of the LCMS? Jeske is by his willingness to be in fellowship with them through the LCMS RSO status of his Time of Grace under which his program agrees to not oppose their doctrine or practice.
Joe wroteon September 7, 2009 at 9:15pm
Anyone have comments on this? It certainly surprised me!
http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=15614
Time of Grace is a now a "a Recognized Service Organization of The Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod"... I looked this up and part of what that involves is:
"RSO agrees (a) to foster the mission and ministry of the Synod, (b) to engage in programs in harmony with the Synod and (c) not to act contrary to the doctrine and practices of the Synod as outlined in the LCMS Constitution and Bylaws, the LCMS Board of Directors’ Policies and the LCMS Convention Resolutions that apply."
https://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/Service%20Opportunities/RSO%20Agreement.pdf
Can a WELS pastor really place his ministry under the authority of "LCMS doctrine and practices" and "LCMS Convention Resolutions" and stay a WELS pastor?
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2204954201&topic=10573
3. Time of Grace RSO request.
New RSO guidelines reduce the requisite proportion of LCMS people on RSO boards. In light of the fact that two district presidents have expressed support for Rev. Jeske’’s program, the board arrived at the following Consensus: (a) involve President Kieschnick in the process for gathering information and advice regarding the potential “stepping into” WELS territory, and (b) send the new RSO application form to
Rev. Jeske when it is available. The matter will be re-visited at a later meeting. Having all the
information at hand will be helpful.
http://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/Communications/020408%20BCS%20Minutes.pdf
LCMS is as accomodating as the Pope.
Brett,
I might not be in agreement with all their doctrinal statements but their not going to hell because of them. Thus making Jeske's work OK in my book.
mjleyrer, you've touched on the issue at hand.
Would you agree that belief in the central doctrine of Scripture is the deciding factor as to whether someone goes to Heaven or to Hell?
Would you please explain the central doctrine of Scripture and do it in a way which clearly delineates what MUST be believed or else a person is condemned to Hell.
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