MLC statues "The Sprinter" and "Luther" square off
Statues of "The Sprinter" and "Martin Luther" at Martin Luther College come to life and battle it out across the campus.
The plot:
- Someone zaps the Sprinter and the Martin Luther statues, making them come alive.
- Luther sees the Sprinter, flings his Bible away in a fury, and begins chasing the Sprinter.
- Both engage in violent, badly faked fighting in the snow, bare-chested.
- The statues chase around the Martin Luther campus, outside and in.
- The statues are sissy-kicking each other, to the sound of Kung-Fu Fighting.
- Two students decide to shoot them, but the bullets do not harm the statues.
- Luther says "Oh God!" and hugs the Sprinter. The Sprinter hugs Luther.
Funny? You betcha.
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GJ - This video represents the dominant spirit of the college, as represented by the anti-Confessional Larry Olson, whose reputation rests upon a DMin from Fuller Seminary and one parish, which is doing so poorly that it is borrowing money to move away. Before Larry Oh!--Our Staph Infection--came Ted Hartwig of Two Isaiahs (liberal criticism of the Bible) fame. Ted hisself defended the unionist, feminist creeds in Contemptuous Worship - in the Quarterly and in The Northwestern Lutheran (proto-FIC). So Ted was their heresiarch at MLC, "severely punished," and yet emerged as the expert on feminist Biblical language. And boy, the NARAL and ERA and NOW harpies rushed to join WELS after that, burning their hellish bras in solidarity with Ted's bold stance.
Mrs. Ichabod just reminded me that Dorothy Sonntag left WELS for ELCA. My bad. That was apparently the only feminist result of Ted's creeds and Tiefel's hymnal. At least they got rid of that odious word Lutheran in the main title of their joint project with the ELS.
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mjleyrer has left a new comment on your post "Worst Video Still Posted":
Hey guy above my comment, I'm sorry did anyone ask you to critique how Lutheran MLC was? Do you have some super awesome Lutheran radar that detects the amount of Lutheranism on any given Lutheran campus?
Need I remind you that LUTHERANISM is a branch of CHRISTIANITY? Yeah, Christ, remember that guy? The one who died for our sins? Oh, wait. You're right Luther did that.
Maybe there not the best Lutheran's but their fine Christians. So go take your malicious, ignorant, bull-crap slander somewhere else.
And Jacko, give it up man. Digging up videos on MLC is like digging up dirt on the prom date that turned you down. I.E. PATHETIC.
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GJ - If I were one of the MLC vidiots, I was ask the Leyrer dude to stop defending me. Seriously.
My date married me 40 years ago, but thanks for your concern.
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Fox Mulder has left a new comment on your post "Worst Video Still Posted":
Congrats mjleyrer you accomplished nothing just now. Please, that kind of comment does nothing here. Please remain respectful or (sic - of?) Pastor Jackson. Otherwise you just give him more material to rant about. <== Fox knows how to feign respect.
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mjleyrer has left a new comment on your post "Worst Video Still Posted":
Trust me Jacko, I am not one who is always on the MLC side, but when you come in here being all "BLAH BLAH BLAH MLC IS DUMB LOOK AT THIS STUPID VIDEO LOLZ!!!" I can't help but shut your ignoramus down. You probably have not set foot on the campus in how long? Okay. And you know how many students up there? Right. And you know what about what's going on there? Wow. Even my text is echoing in the VOID of your knowledge of MLC.
Jacko, you gotta stop getting owned by 20 year old kids who aren't even pastor track. It's getting embarrassing.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Clueless in the MLC":
In response to mjleyrer,
Do you know who Dr. Jackson cares about? You! Do you know which synod has some of the most warm hearted and Gospel centerd people that GJ knows? Your's! Required reading highly endorsed by Pastor GJ, The Theology Of The Cross.(Written by a Confessional Lutheran Prof.)
Who has WELS Pastor friends calling him on the phone?(chatting and catching upon things) Answer...Gregory L Jackson. Confessional pastors speak loudly and the CGers will eat them up.
All the followers of this blog are WELS/ELS. Also, a few conservative LCMS friends. Remember, a well seasoned WELS gentleman sent GJ the video (2 weeks after it was put out and admired by the subculture types) Some of the people I most respect graduated from MLC. I could never fill their shoes.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
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GJ - Ichabod, American citizen, born Lutheran (Moline Lutheran Hospital) - doing the job administrators won't do.
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The MLC videographyer might feel like Nathan Lane in The Producers,
saying to Lehrer, "Don't help me!"
32 comments:
The MLC attitude and values speak for themselves. There is little or no Lutheran in it.
Hey guy above my comment, I'm sorry did anyone ask you to critique how Lutheran MLC was? Do you have some super awesome Lutheran radar that detects the amount of Lutheranism on any given Lutheran campus?
Need I remind you that LUTHERANISM is a branch of CHRISTIANITY? Yeah, Christ, remember that guy? The one who died for our sins? Oh, wait. You're right Luther did that.
Maybe there not the best Lutheran's but their fine Christians. So go take your malicious, ignorant, bull-crap slander somewhere else.
And Jacko, give it up man. Digging up videos on MLC is like digging up dirt on the prom date that turned you down. I.E. PATHETIC.
The sin-fallen world's media bemoans the fact that ABC cancelled another Adam Lambert appearance.
I'll bet MLC's student activities group can fit him in. Perhaps during chapel?
Adam, here's a hint: to book your next grinding at MLC (or any Chicanery coven,) you need only use the *words* of a hymn, and you can use whatever tune or prancing is necessary to draw a crowd.
The size of the crowd is the **only** thing that matters.
Well, that and lots of money.
Lattes are nice too.
And conferences.
Babtist ones.
But sound instruction in doctrine and practice at a Synod school? Not so much.
(...anyone remember WHY LCMS got the boot?)
Trust me Jacko, I am not one who is always on the MLC side, but when you come in here being all "BLAH BLAH BLAH MLC IS DUMB LOOK AT THIS STUPID VIDEO LOLZ!!!" I can't help but shut your ignoramus down. You probably have not set foot on the campus in how long? Okay. And you know how many students up there? Right. And you know what about what's going on there? Wow. Even my text is echoing in the VOID of your knowledge of MLC.
Jacko, you gotta stop getting owned by 20 year old kids who aren't even pastor track. It's getting embarrassing.
Congrats mjleyrer you accomplished nothing just now. Please, that kind of comment does nothing here. Please remain respectful or Pastor Jackson. Otherwise you just give him more material to rant about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHEBT5oBsmo
mjleyrer's attitude and values speak for themselves, too -- not very Christian.
Is mjleyrer a product of MLC????
Alright, number one, I'm just going to clarify, because apparently my posts accomplish nothing, that I always act on my own with zero endorsement from anyone. Especially from the Leyrer family. I will not have my stupid antics tarnish their name. I have, and always will be, a loose canon.
Number two, WELS church lady, I would just like to let you know that I don't go by synod, I go by church but my lot usually falls to the ELS. So, he rarely refers to "my synod" because in a sense I am non-synodical. And if Greg Jackson really cared about ME, he would stop ripping on my uncles. There may be a lot of pastors that call Jacko to catch up, but there are equally as many, if not more, that denounce him.
Fox Mulder. It's nice of you to defend Jacko but I don't think he shows the same courtesy to a lot of people he talks about on his blog(Forest Bivens-Uncle). I'm not one to turn the other cheek, not my style. And I especially stand up for MLC because I care deeply about the school. Even when I'm cleaning snot off the walls in Concord during the summer. So, in conclusion, I will NOT stop commenting because it's just that much more fun to give him the material.
And I would like to point out that I don't comment on theological issues, just on stuff I know about. I will not go in guns blazing to a subject I am ignorant to. I will let those wiser than me handle it.
Have a wonderful freaking day. See you the next time you post something applicable to me.
If not MLC itself, I suspect mjleyrer is has imbibed a full measure of the secular culture. Clearly the students in the video have done the same thing. His flippant attitude and colloquial style are dead give aways. If you want to be taken seriously, then act seriously and write seriously. Unless you are able to do so, you have no place in any kind of serious religious or academic debate. In words you might understand, go get you some learnin' son before you try messin' with da big boys.
GUH! I'm not a "product" of MLC. Check the side traffic thing. I'm in Brussels, Belgium. Don't know a lot of MLC kids that would make it over here.
If not MLC itself, I suspect mjleyrer is has imbibed a full measure of the secular culture. Clearly the students in the video have done the same thing. His flippant attitude and colloquial style are dead give aways. If you want to be taken seriously, then act seriously and write seriously. Unless you are able to do so, you have no place in any kind of serious religious or academic debate. In words you might understand, go get you some learnin' son before you try messin' with da big boys
Listen bub, it's not about my writing style. What do you want? Everything to MLA correct? Or do you prefer Chicago? Who gives a rip about my style of writing besides you? Sorry I'm not using big words like "imbibed", I write how I write and I AIN'T CHANGIN' NOTHIN' FOR NO ONE. I can hold my ground with the best of them when it comes to subjects I know. Maybe you didn't catch me saying in my earlier comment how I "don't comment on theological issues, just on stuff I know about. If Jacko wants to have a blog then he's going to get people that disagree with him. I don't have to act seriously and I don't have to write seriously if I don't want to. If you don't want to accept my points as valid because of your "superior" writing ability then fine. That's your problem, not mine.
E.E. Cummings is one of the most loved poets on earth and he didn't even use punctuation. People write differently. Deal with it.
That Leyrer family must be a bunch of losers to produce such a punk.
He's as flamboyant as the Fire Island boys, but with a different purpose. His perversion is antinomialism, a common trait of C&Cers.
He writes like he's half in the bag, maybe not wasted on liquor, but definitely drunk on self love.
The Leryer family must also be antinomialists--they clearly didn't spank junior in his formative years.
(does anyone remember that story from the Old Testament where some "youths" make fun of an old man and they eaten by a bear? that was the first thing I thought of when I read his posts)
Oh sure, a study abroad in Belgium for three months or so and you're all worldly. lulz. Stay for a couple of years or more, POST-college, and then talk.
I LOVE IT! Jacko misspelled "Leyrer." LMAO! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
"And I would like to point out that I don't comment on theological issues, just on stuff I know about. I will not go in guns blazing to a subject I am ignorant to. I will let those wiser than me handle it."
Let's see... that would seem to limit Mr. Leyrer's comments to being a loose cannon, "caring deeply" for MLC, summer snot cleaning, syntactically-idiosyncratic poets, and being a punk.
I don't think any of those topics belong on this blog, so I suppose we all should bid adieu to Mr. Leyrer.
Go back to the kids' table-- the adults are talking.
Ohh yeah, one more thing. I'm not Larry Olsen's biggest fan - but he's more of a pastor than you'll ever be.
Also, tell us who WELS Church Lady is. It's probably just you spouting more poo poo.
That Leyrer family must be a bunch of losers to produce such a punk.
He's as flamboyant as the Fire Island boys, but with a different purpose. His perversion is antinomialism, a common trait of C&Cers.
He writes like he's half in the bag, maybe not wasted on liquor, but definitely drunk on self love.
The Leryer family must also be antinomialists--they clearly didn't spank junior in his formative years.
(does anyone remember that story from the Old Testament where some "youths" make fun of an old man and they eaten by a bear? that was the first thing I thought of when I read his posts)
Obviously you have a reading deficiency. I said leave the rest of my family out of this. They raised me well. I act on my own accord. Oh, and I'm sorry, is my inebriation on self love getting in the way of the all important "DK" from getting heard? I'll make sure someone pays attention to you so you can fill that narcissistic void.
Say what you will but I am the FURTHEST thing from A C&Cer. Exactly why I said my lot usually falls to the ELS. I love their liturgy and can't stand the CW. I'd be using TLH if it were my choice. Hey, but who am I to argue with "DK" he's probably knows my whole life story after a couple of posts on a blog.
I remember the story of the youth getting mauled by the bear. Except there was one difference. Elijah was sent by God to be a prophet to his people. Not to babble mindlessly on an internet blog.
Oh, and JR, Thanks for your concern but I think I'll pass on your offer. I was never a fan of the kids table.
And now YOU have driven this subject away from the real point and started insulting me. Stick to the subject at hand and keep your distaste for me and my writing to yourself. I've got the right to comment here just as much as you "important" people do.
And whoever said I was "all-worldly" needs to go back and check where I said that. Pretty sure I didn't. That's your assumption, and we all know what assumptions do.
This is another MLC video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHEBT5oBsmo
Check it out. What do you think Pastor?
mjleyrer does not exit. He is really a tubby sportscaster.
JR, in my opinion no one should be talked off of the site. Each comment and the author should stand or fall on their own merits. Again, just my opinion.
In Christ,
Brett
Leyrer,
Just letting you know that YOU brought up your family.
I don't know yer family and don't care to. I know enough people.
But since you brought them up (without any reason whatsoever) I thought I'd rip on them(for no reason whatsoever). Snark begets snark.
The cynic psychologist in me wonders if your family has begged you repeatedly "please don't speak". Maybe that's why you're in Europe.
Liar's real initials are MS.
Hold on, I brought up my family to distance myself from them. In the sense that no one would take a shot at them. Then YOU said "That Leyrer family must be a bunch of losers to produce such a punk." So, I mentioned them to try and leave them out of this and then you directly violated my request. Thanks for that. Very Christian of you.
And I'm in Europe because I want to better myself. See the world, learn new things. Not because my parents wanted to shut me up.
This is a case study to be used in the Lecture series:
"how to bait someone"
ha ha ha. this is rich.
Brett, I agree. I don't want to discourage vigourous debate in any way. However, Mr. Leyrer is not adding to the debate in any way whatsoever. He merely is being a troll.
However, his first comment on this thread does warrant some clarification, methinks. Let's review:
"Hey guy above my comment, I'm sorry did anyone ask you to critique how Lutheran MLC was? Do you have some super awesome Lutheran radar that detects the amount of Lutheranism on any given Lutheran campus?
"Need I remind you that LUTHERANISM is a branch of CHRISTIANITY? Yeah, Christ, remember that guy? The one who died for our sins? Oh, wait. You're right Luther did that.
"Maybe there not the best Lutheran's but their fine Christians. So go take your malicious, ignorant, bull-crap slander somewhere else."
Punctuation and grammatical errors aside, I think it sounds like Mr. Leyrer is talking out of both sides of his mouth. This first comment seems to insinuate that there isn't anything to Lutheranism except that Lutherans worship Luther instead of Christ.
However, a later comment by Mr. Leyrer seems to contradict this:
"Say what you will but I am the FURTHEST thing from A C&Cer. Exactly why I said my lot usually falls to the ELS. I love their liturgy and can't stand the CW. I'd be using TLH if it were my choice."
Not sure how you can love the liturgy in TLH and yet have such a terrible misunderstanding of Lutheranism.
I don't see a logical correlation between these two viewpoints, so I must conclude that these things are being proffered merely to get a reaction. Hence, the troll accusation.
I'm happy to welcome Mr. Leyrer into the discussion if he wishes to participate in a real discussion. Otherwise, as I said earlier, he should refrain from commenting until he is able to contribute in a meaningful fashion.
Understood. I do believe he was referring to your copy of The Book of Concord when he referenced your super awesome Lutheran radar that detects the amount of Lutheranism on any given Lutheran campus.
We need to make a quick draw holster for the BOC.
"You gonna draw that smoke wagon or just whistle dixie?"
JR,
You sir, are missing the point of what I am saying because of your critical attitude for proper writing style, punctuation, and the like. I will admit that maybe I don't know 100% the ins and outs of Lutheranism. I am doing my best to correct it. But I am a Lutheran, make no mistake. With that being said I would like to point out that my comments do NOT contradict each other in any way. The comment about MLC was to show you that you should not rate people based on their Lutheranism but on their Christianity. Kids at MLC may not have the fullest understanding of Lutheranism but they have the full knowledge of Christ and the Bible. A far more important book than the book of Concord. I know some very good Calvinists who I will see in heaven because of their faith in Christ. Not Calvin.
My second comment was to be taken in the context of someone calling me a C&Cer. Can I not defend my love for traditional Lutheran liturgy and at the same time be rooted in Christ over Luther for my faith?
I don't see how my statements contradict each other at all.
Well,
Here's a perfect time for a discussion on a Quia subscription versus a quatanus subscription.
Leyrer, Ichabodians argue for Quia, which is the idea that the Lutheran Confessions are a correct exposition of the Bible. It seems that the Quia folks approach it like this: Something that agrees 100% with Scripture is no less God's Word. Similarly: if I told a stranger on the street "Jesus is the son of God who offered his life as a sacrifice for all mankind". That's not a Bible passage, but it's true. Therefore it is no less God's word that the Canon.That's how the Quia argument has been explained to me. Not sure if I dig it, but that seems to be the reasoning.Quatanus, on the other hand is the view that the Lutheran Confessions are true insofar as they agreewith God's word.Brett Meyer, is that a fair description of what Quia means
A quia subscription to the Book of Concord is simply the conviction that the Lutheran Confessions are the correct explanation of Scripture in all points. In no part does it teach contrary to Scripture. This is what you wrote and I agree.
The rest of what you wrote I do not believe is necessarily a part of the quia subscription but clearly a Christian understanding of God's Word. No one can say that Jesus is Lord but by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Spirit gives us the ability to speak God's Word in our own words. This does not make what we say God's inspired Word as the Scriptures are but the Holy Spirit works through our words which are faithful to His Word. What we say, whether it's by quoting the Confessions or by speaking Scriptures truths in our words are all tested against Holy Scripture.
Phil 2:13, "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."
Mr. Leyrer, I am not missing the point of what you are saying because of my "critical attitude." Please note that I said "punctuation and grammatical errors aside."
Someone who strives for clarity of thought should take care when presenting his viewpoints so that they cannot be misinterpreted. That is the reason why I prefer the proper spelling and punctuation of the English language. Poor spelling and punctuation detracts from the point and obfuscates the intended message.
You said something very telling: "Kids at MLC may not have the fullest understanding of Lutheranism but they have the full knowledge of Christ and the Bible." I may be stereotyping here, but most of the MLC students I've known in my life were products of a life-long enrollment in the WELS educational system. If they don't have a strong understanding of Lutheranism, then our Lutheran schools are failing.
Your words also seem to imply that Lutherans place Luther above Christ. I don't understand where this viewpoint comes from, but I don't see how that can be. To be Lutheran is always to point to Christ, to be rooted in Scripture, and to know that our salvation is by faith alone. I'm sure you'll recognize the "three solas" in there.
Mr. Leyrer, you also say that you don't know "the ins and outs of Lutheranism," but that you are doing your best to correct it. Exactly what are you doing? And, more importantly, why are you doing what you're doing? I don't mean this to be accusatory; I'm merely interested in your quest for a deeper understanding of Lutheranism, which is something I applaud.
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