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To what cultural aspersions do we owe the phenomenon of remaking the remakes of music videos? The Fire Island Pines boys, who created the Miley Cyrus send-up "Party In The F.I.P," receive their own homage with "Party In The MLC" fro...
Kyle Fax has left a new comment on your on your on your post "More Puerile Behavior":
"The excuses for "Party in the MLC" were so flimsy that they deserved the gaydar graphic."
They deserved it? Wow. That's absolutely spectacular of you to say. Even two months later they apparently deserve to be mocked? You have no concept of the term constructive criticism. And really, is asking them to provide a public apology constructive criticism? Someone like you shouldn't be given such an honor if it is. It probably wouldn't satisfy your harsh tongue. You are a poor example to Christians everywhere, Reverend Jackson. Absolutely shameful.
P.S. to Brett Meyer: You're not funny.
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GJ - PPS to Kyle - you are!
I am glad everyone can see the WELS damage-control operation at work: humorless, thin-skinned, and caustic. Heaven forbid they would find anything wrong with their athletes prancing around on the Internet, getting the attention of Queerty and having their image above posted on Google Images.
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Clueless in the MLC":
Here's a few reasons for MLC to post a retraction and clarifying statement concerning their confession on homosexuality. Then again it's currently a hate crime to speak out against homosexuality. Is this why MLC won't correct the impression given to 86,000++ with their pro homosexual video?
"Some (str8?) students at Midland Lutheran College in Nebraska were so enamored with the Fire Island gays' tribute to Miley Cyrus' "Party in the USA", they made their own. Must be some of those liberal Lutherans."
"Nice job Andy --- you just posted a video of guys "fagging" it up for the camera as a joke. Sadly the orignal video did not realize what a sad joke it was. This group knew they were making fun of a target. BTW this does show how "queeny" behavior is an affectation and easily adopted. Many homosexual adopt it to "fit in" with those they feel safe with IMHO."
Posted by: RJP3 | Oct 20, 2009 1:53:01 PM
"I wouldn't say they were enamored by the Fire Island version. This video seems to be more mocking and poking fun of the first one. They are for sure over exaggerating their movements to be "more gay" and queeny. Nobody hits a beach ball like that unless they're a gay cliche on a Fox television show"
Posted by: James | Oct 20, 2009 1:27:39 PM
"I prefer the Lutheran "fagged-up" version."
Posted by: Frank L | Oct 20, 2009 2:24:05 PM
http://www.towleroad.com/2009/10/lutheran-boys-do-their-own-miley-cyrus-fire-island-party-video.html#more
Some (str8?) students at Midland Lutheran College in Nebraska were so enamored with the Fire Island gays' tribute to Miley Cyrus' "Party in the USA", they made their own.
Must be some of those liberal Lutherans.
"Cherry Grove is one of two gay communities on the long barrier island of Fire Island. The other is Fire Island Pines...."
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Clueless in the MLC":
In all of the publicity the MLC video received and widespread discussions the only voices heard from MLC were those of the students and some parents. The fact that this homosexual video, parody or not, was allowed to exist after initial editing, viewing by the parents and faculty of MLC at homecoming and then distribution on the WWW begs the question: Who is making the decisions at MLC. It's as if the students are governing themselves. Anonymous at 4:30am may have touched on a key element to these issues. Just as the Lutheran Emergent Church Growth shrinkers are teaching congregations to 'break the rules' in supposed spreading of the gospel, they are teaching the same to the students and glibly watching the students exercise their new freedoms.
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Clueless in the MLC":
Kyle Fax, my opinion is that an apology is not needed as much as a public retraction. How can anyone fix the full responsibility on the children who created the homosexual video when their parents approved and the MLC faculty condoned it. It's appropriate that they are contrite over making the video. The most important issue is that 86,000++ people have been given the impression that homosexuality is good, fun and enjoyable. Even if MLC was a secular school they should still publish a retraction because homosexuality is a sin and should not be promoted but condemned. The fact that MLC calls itself Lutheran (pledging themselves to Scripture and the Lutheran Confessions) makes it imperative that they publicly retract the impression that homosexuality is good and right, for the benefit of everyone who views the retraction.
Their refusal to publish a retraction and doctrinal clarification using a method and mode at least equal to that used to publicly publish the offensive video (I recommend using YouTube - the same distribution channel) is a clear confession that they don't care about the sinful impression they gave to 86,000++ people and makes their claim to 'love the lost in Christ' a complete sham.
In my opinion the lack of a public retraction is not surprising since they they continue to confess the false doctrine of Universal Objective Justification which is contrary to Scripture, the Lutheran Confessions and Christ. When they destroy the central doctrine of Scripture you have nowhere to go but down.
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GJ - I read The Thword front-page editorial as an expression of their resentment, not as an apology:
But once the video left the context of the MLC campus, it came under unforeseen criticism from some who failed to see the humor in the video.
The most pronounced critic of the video was independent Lutheran pastor and blogger Gregory Jackson. Posts from Jackson, as well as comments left by the blog's readers, labeled the actions of the MLC students featured in the video unbecoming to future WELS pastors and teachers.
These claims were based on the video from which the creators of "Party in the MLC" took their inspiration--a previous YouTube video known as "Party in the FIP." Set to the tune of "Party in the USA" by Miley Cyrus, "Party in the FIP" shows a group of men performing choreographed routines on a beach while lip-synching the lyrics of the song."
"Party in the MLC" is a parody of the video, using the same soundtrack and many of the same routines.
The controversy over MLC students parodying "Party in the FIP" is derived from the lifestyle associated with "the FIP."
But makers of the "Party in the MLC" agree with other viewers that none of the actions in the "Party in the FIP" video would be considered blatant homosexuality. They also admit no previous knowledge of the reputation of Fire Island Pines. Ben Reichel, MLC student and video contributor, revealed, "We didn't find out until two or three days after we posted it that that's what it stood for. After we learned that we were kind of taken aback."
After learning of the offense caused by the video, the students decided to remove the video "out of Christian love" for those who found the video inappropriate. The decision to remove the video was a personal decision made by the creators of the video.
Reichel stated, "We all got together as a group --the guys who were in the video--and we realized that this caused way too much commotion and way too much negativity, and we all decided together that we were going to take it down."
After meeting amongst (sic) themselves, the students sought the advice of college administration. Reichel continued, "We went and talked to the administration here at MLC--the president and vice-president--and we got their thoughts on it too. But we knew before we even talked to them that we were going to take it down."
Matt Rothe, classmate of Reichel and video contributor, along with the rest of the students involved with the video, are ready to put "Party in the MLC" and the attention it has received in the past; "The group of guys who made this video only wished for good to come out of this video, and I must express firmly we wish for no more negative attention from it."
13 comments:
Thin skinned...talk about calling the kettle black. Mein Gott!
Here's a few reasons for MLC to post a retraction and clarifying statement concerning their confession on homosexuality. Then again it's currently a hate crime to speak out against homosexuality. Is this why MLC won't correct the impression given to 86,000++ with their pro homosexual video?
"Some (str8?) students at Midland Lutheran College in Nebraska were so enamored with the Fire Island gays' tribute to Miley Cyrus' "Party in the USA", they made their own. Must be some of those liberal Lutherans."
"Nice job Andy --- you just posted a video of guys "fagging" it up for the camera as a joke. Sadly the orignal video did not realize what a sad joke it was. This group knew they were making fun of a target. BTW this does show how "queeny" behavior is an affectation and easily adopted. Many homosexual adopt it to "fit in" with those they feel safe with IMHO."
Posted by: RJP3 | Oct 20, 2009 1:53:01 PM
"I wouldn't say they were enamored by the Fire Island version. This video seems to be more mocking and poking fun of the first one. They are for sure over exaggerating their movements to be "more gay" and queeny. Nobody hits a beach ball like that unless they're a gay cliche on a Fox television show"
Posted by: James | Oct 20, 2009 1:27:39 PM
"I prefer the Lutheran "fagged-up" version."
Posted by: Frank L | Oct 20, 2009 2:24:05 PM
http://www.towleroad.com/2009/10/lutheran-boys-do-their-own-miley-cyrus-fire-island-party-video.html#more
The MLC video "Party in the ... MLC" illustrates the results of a dumbed down education. The ability to think takes a back seat to the dogmatic opinions of their instructors.
In all of the publicity the MLC video received and widespread discussions the only voices heard from MLC were those of the students and some parents. The fact that this homosexual video, parody or not, was allowed to exist after initial editing, viewing by the parents and faculty of MLC at homecoming and then distribution on the WWW begs the question: Who is making the decisions at MLC. It's as if the students are governing themselves. Anonymous at 4:30am may have touched on a key element to these issues. Just as the Lutheran Emergent Church Growth shrinkers are teaching congregations to 'break the rules' in supposed spreading of the gospel, they are teaching the same to the students and glibly watching the students exercise their new freedoms.
Oh, I like your picture of Roland H. Bainton. You never know; these gentlemen may request your assistance when starting their dissertations. These guys see the orthodoxy on this blog, they ain't blind.
Pastor GJ, I don't suppose you knew Heiko A. Oberman? In the book, "Luther Man Between God And The Devil," the English translation was dedicated in memory of Bainton. Orthodox Lutheranism is a small world.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
Who exactly would an apology satisfy? The people that post on this blog? Where would they post it and how would they get it to the same amount of people (the majority of which who probably don't give a hoot anyways)? How about you start giving these people some examples and suggestions of how they should go about making this apology instead of just piling up (the same) reasons over the past two months as to why they should give an apology. If they truly repented to God for putting the video on YouTube, then they're forgiven and they really shouldn't have to satisfy a bunch of bloggers on the internet who come up with cute mocking pet-names for various WELS institutions/periodicals and make a poor attempt at humor with stolen LOLcats.
"The MLC video "Party in the ... MLC" illustrates the results of a dumbed down education. The ability to think takes a back seat to the dogmatic opinions of their instructors."
Some specific examples please? I want to hear more about this "dumbed-down education." Perhaps some specific courses or instructors that you would like to mention. Or are you basing the entire campuses' thinking rationale and educational ability off of a homecoming video that you never would have even known about if it wouldn't have been put on YouTube?
Wow, come off it Jacko (You still haven't clarified if that's a cool nickname or not). Party in the MLC was ages ago and the only reason it keeps coming back is because of YOU.
Yeah, okay, maybe it wasn't the best idea but stuff does die. Hence the phrase "beating a dead horse" there's no point to it. The horse is dead. As is the MLC video.
And whoever said this:
"The MLC video "Party in the ... MLC" illustrates the results of a dumbed down education. The ability to think takes a back seat to the dogmatic opinions of their instructors."
is clearly an idiot. I don't know who posted it (I suspect Jacko in attempts to get someone to agree with him) But all it shows is that you are the one who can't think. I know tons of MLC kids who are intelligent and even one of the kids in the video (remain nameless)is extremely intelligent and is a critical thinker. Probably thought it would be funny and light hearted until it fell into your hands. Now using your evil blogging skillz you are going to rule the world! Confessional Lutheran style!(Insert evil laugh here)
I'm sure if I wanted to I could find stupid crap you did when you were kid.
Close MLC, too, since it is a failure.
In response to mjleyrer,
Do you know who Dr. Jackson cares about? You! Do you know which synod has some of the most warm hearted and Gospel centerd people that GJ knows? Your's! Required reading highly endorsed by Pastor GJ, The Theology Of The Cross.(Written by a Confessional Lutheran Prof.)
Who has WELS Pastor friends calling him on the phone?(chatting and catching upon things) Answer...Gregory L Jackson. Confessional pastors speak loudly and the CGers will eat them up.
All the followers of this blog are WELS/ELS. Also, a few conservative LCMS friends. Remember, a well seasoned WELS gentlemen sent GJ the video(2 weeks after it was put out and admired by the subculture types)Some of the people I most respect graduated from MLC. I could never fill their shoes.
In Christ,
from WELS church lady
The MLC video is a hate crime in disguise.
Kyle Fax, my opinion is that an apology is not needed as much as a public retraction. How can anyone fix the full responsibility on the children who created the homosexual video when their parents approved and the MLC faculty condoned it. It's appropriate that they are contrite over making the video. The most important issue is that 86,000++ people have been given the impression that homosexuality is good, fun and enjoyable. Even if MLC was a secular school they should still publish a retraction because homosexuality is a sin and should not be promoted but condemned. The fact that MLC calls itself Lutheran (pledging themselves to Scripture and the Lutheran Confessions) makes it imperative that they publicly retract the impression that homosexuality is good and right, for the benefit of everyone who views the retraction.
Their refusal to publish a retraction and doctrinal clarification using a method and mode at least equal to that used to publicly publish the offensive video (I recommend using YouTube - the same distribution channel) is a clear confession that they don't care about the sinful impression they gave to 86,000++ people and makes their claim to 'love the lost in Christ' a complete sham.
In my opinion the lack of a public retraction is not surprising since they they continue to confess the false doctrine of Universal Objective Justification which is contrary to Scripture, the Lutheran Confessions and Christ. When they destroy the central doctrine of Scripture you have nowhere to go but down.
Let's contrast this behaviour with that of SP Schroeder responding to the ELCA decision on homosexual clergy. Rev. Schroeder denounced the decision as "sinful in God's eyes" and showed true Christian love by stating that we are "calling the sinner to repent and by assuring the sinner that there is full forgiveness in Jesus Christ."
Kids, that's a Man of God right there. And, let's not forget, he wasn't even talking about his own synod!
Thanks for calling a spade a spade when it comes to MLC. As you know, any student or even staff member at a WELS school who dared to call a spade a spade would sustain the same hail of rotten tomatoes and eggs you received via the blog comments, and after a year or two would drop out of the WELS school system after being pegged as a Pietist or party pooper, his or her life there being made unbearable by random comments and prank acts wherever he or she went on campus.
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