Double-Dipping at The Love Shack

The recent post on Perish Services wrecking a congregation brings up an interesting issue about synod-paid Chicanery staff double-dipping.

Feel free to correct my facts, since I am not on their memo list.

Someone like Paul Calvin Kelm gets a "call" to be a Perish Consultant. Apparently there are Consultants and Assistants - but I am not sure. I will include the Planned Giving Counselors, laity and pastors, who offer estate planning seminars and holds granny's hand while she signs over an Irrevocable Trust over the the synod.

I have to assume that there is a set salary, or they would not gather there, like flies to buttermilk. But there is also a commission or fee. The Bergs said that the Special Giving Counselors get a commission for each gift, that this is written in the contract. Laity reporting from the battlefield tell me that the Perish experts extract huge fees, up to $10,000.

The Ron Roth/Jeff Davis team imposes a large fee plus a percentage of the money raised, contrary to normal stewardship practice (but in harmony with Jewish traditions). Roth and Davis, Inc are not now part of The Love Shack, but they use their WELS connections accordingly. Roth midwifes the Church Growth Movement in WELS, so bow down. Both are Chicaneries, Ron a founder and Jeff a stealth board member (photo but no bio!).

Most people probably assume that staff from The Love Shack are doing their work because mission offerings have already paid them.

My experience with the Chicaneries is - they leave no money-source stone unturned. Members and pastors should be more careful with the money entrusted to them.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Perish Assistance in WELS":

I know of two churches which spent between $30,000 and $35,000 each on Perish Services.

If you want to save the money, here is the essence of the program.

1. Get lay people to take over some
of the pastor's duties in the
Sunday morning worship service.
2. Start a pre-school.
3. Have a greeting and visitors
center in the narthex, which
is improved with coffee.
4. Get a new church sign.
5. Spruce up the landscaping.
6. Find a way to increase
offerings -- anything from an
every member (stewardship) visit
to hiring an outside firm.
7. Write a mission statement since
you can't know what are a doing
without one. (Shame our
forefathers' churches didn't
have them. WELS could be big by
now if they had!)
8. Start a committee to talk about
"The State of the Church."
9. By the way, some new buildings
would help.

If you think this is worth thirty grand, I have a message for you. I will discount it to $20,000 just for you. If you want to buy in, leave your email address on this blog and I will get in touch with you where you send the money. It's a deal. I just saved you $10,000. Only serious contributors of $20,000 need to respond!

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Perish Assistance in WELS":

My congregation used Parish Assistance several years ago. I firmly believed that a good plan was developed. However, with any plan the pastor and laity must be involved, supportive, and committed to address the plan that was adopted. Many years have now passed, the plan gathers dust and the pastors discuss how overwhelmed they are with two bible studies on Sunday mornings and nothing else the rest of the week. Parish services may be bad and my experience doesn't support it but we're in denial if we think we do not have leadersip issues to address churches that are frankly withering away.

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GJ - Sickabod retreated in haste again, erasing all posts and eliminating the blog address. It is no longer available to register.

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Pan-Denominational NIV To Undergo Additional Changes: Will "Make Disciples" Turn into "Make Cell Groups"?

Smoke and mirrors make Mark Jeske more awesome.


Yahoo News


Best-selling Bible to undergo revision
AP

By ERIC GORSKI, AP Religion Writer Eric Gorski, Ap Religion Writer – Tue Sep 1, 5:55 pm ET

The top-selling Bible in North America will undergo its first revision in 25 years, modernizing the language in some sections and promising to reopen a contentious debate about changing gender terms in the sacred text. The New International Version, the Bible of choice for conservative evangelicals, will be revised to reflect changes in English usage and advances in Biblical scholarship, it was announced Tuesday. The revision is scheduled to be completed late next year and published in 2011.

"We want to reach English speakers across the globe with a Bible that is accurate, accessible and that speaks to its readers in a language they can understand," said Keith Danby, global president and CEO of Biblica, a Colorado Springs, Colo.-based Christian ministry that holds the NIV copyright.

But past attempts to remake the NIV for contemporary audiences in different editions have been plagued by controversies about gender language that have pitted theological conservatives against each other.

The changes did not make all men "people" or remove male references to God, but instead involved dropping gender-specific terms when translators judged that the original text didn't intend it. So in some verses, references to "sons of God" became "children of God," for example.

Supporters say gender-inclusive changes are more accurate and make the Bible more accessible, but critics contend they twist meaning or smack of political correctness.

Acknowledging past missteps, the NIV's overseers are promising that this time, the revision process will be more transparent and that they will actively promote what they describe as a long-held practice of inviting input from scholars and readers.

The NIV was first published in 1978 and more than 300 million NIV Bibles are in print worldwide; its publishers and distributors say the translation accounts for 30 percent of Bibles sold in North America.

The Committee on Bible Translation, an independent group of conservative scholars and translators formed in 1965 to create and revise the NIV, will oversee the new revision.

An effort earlier this decade to create a separate version of the NIV that used more gender-inclusive language in an attempt to reach a younger audience fell flat with groups that felt it crossed the line.

That edition, Today's New International Version, will cease publication once the new-look NIV is released, said Moe Girkins, president of Grand Rapids, Mich.-based Zondervan, its North American publisher.

"Whatever its strengths, the TNIV has become an emblem of division in the evangelical Christian world," Girkins said.

It was the TNIV that ushered in changes from "sons of God" to "children of God," or "brothers" to "brothers and sisters." In Genesis I, God created "human beings" in his own image instead of "man."

Many prominent pastors and scholars endorsed the changes. But critics said masculine terms in the original should not be tampered with. Some warned that changing singular gender references to plural ones alters what the Bible says about God's relationships with individuals.

The Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution saying the edition "has gone beyond acceptable translation standards."

"We fell short of the trust that has been placed in us," said Danby, of Biblica. "We failed to make a clear case for the revisions."

Danby said that freezing the NIV in its 1984 state was also a mistake, however. He emphasized that in the revision, about 90 percent of the NIV will be unchanged.

Douglas Moo, a professor at Wheaton College and chairman of the Committee on Bible Translation, said the group is committed to "a complete review of every gender related change."

"I am not sure how it's going to come out," Moo said. "We have a genuine, authentic review process ... Everything is on the table."

One of the most vocal critics of gender-inclusive translations, Randy Stinson of the Louisville, Ky.-based Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, said the group supports updating the NIV. He credited organizers for their openness.

"We're still probably going to differ on the way they handle some of the gender language," Stinson said. "But we're open and anxious to see what they come up with and we're really going to be reserving judgment."

Most changes will have nothing to do with gender inclusivity, Moo said. And the TNIV provides a glimpse of likely changes: In the '84 NIV, Mary is "with child," but in the TNIV she is "pregnant." In the NIV version of Psalm 146:9, "The Lord watches over the alien." The TNIV used "foreigner" instead of "alien."

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GJ - Every so often someone leaves a gratuitous remark about the KJV. I am not a KJV legalist, so I am open to a better translation. I favor the KJV family (New KJV, KJV II, etc). Currently, there are several KJV updates, which are far more reliable in text and content than the NIV and its competitors. The KJV we all use today is itself an update from the original. Unfortunately, the modern KJV variations like to omit the Sacraments. Still, the worst KJV variation is better than the best NIV or RSV.

Missouri and WELS are NIV-only. The NIV monopoly was doubtless a money decision for Lutherans.

Missouri and WELS made a big mistake in getting behind the NIV. Now Paul McCain is promoting the ESV, which is another version of the RSV.

John Jeske (Mequon professor, Jumpin' Jack, aka Jester) participated in the NIV. Jester excused its unionistic errors by publishing a piece about the errors he endorsed through his joint work with Pentecostals, Babtists, and other ideologies. Of course, he practiced safe sects, so no unwanted spawn emerged from that union...

Unless we count the unionism of Mark, his son. Time of Grace is much like daddy's NIV. It belongs to no particular confession of faith, but Mark solicits funds and trinket sales from WELS.

Today Rupert Murdoch, billionaire, owns Zondervan, and Zondervan publishes the NIV.

The WELS-LCMS-ELS switch to the NIV union translation--and the monopoly enjoyed by the NIV--are the overlooked causes for unionism in those groups. As Reu wrote so eloquently, unionism promotes doctrinal indifference, and doctrinal indifference promotes unionism.

The radical Left in Lutherdom can be tracked by their endorsement of liberal Babtist Walter Rauschenbusch.

The Shrinkers can be identified by their perversion of the Great Commission, from "Go, teach all nations, and baptize" to "Go and make disciples...."