Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "WELS Church and Change - Operating in Stealth Mode...":
The CORE is supported for a certain length of time (a couple years) with an agreed upon dollar amount by an anonymous donor. St. Peter and the Synod are not monetary supports.
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GJ - But who is providing this enormous diversion of funds to The CORE? Inquiring minds want to know. Who bought Ski's home in Milwaukee? Who sold him a home in A-town? The records are public.
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Michael Schottey has left a new comment on your post "Funding for The CORE":
Also...if this anonymous donor weren't hoodwinked into supporting The CORE might he be giving his dollars to less pietistic exercises?
Or, at least, pastors who don't value the teaching of mega church founders over their own religion?
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GJ - Michael has grasped the issue. The Shrinkers have abysmal skills in reading comprehension. Diversion does not mean skimming from the synod coffers, a skill which the Changers do take pride in. Diversion means - The money could have been spent better than wasting it on a clown ministry - running off to Schwaermer conferences every few weeks.
Note that the Shrinkers take great offense at what was not said, so they can rant about the accusation not made, instead of addressing the main issue. According to Anonymous (who else?), The CORE
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Appleton Anonymous Pastor has left a new comment on your post "Funding for The CORE":
Anon 12:13 You're another Jerkson zombie that takes in everything Jerkson spews out. I'm guessing that over 200 people are attending the CORE. And yes, you are not seeing. You're not even looking.
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GJ - So 200 are members or 190 are attending from local WELS churches? Using the published total of 15 members in one year, I get:
5 Ski-sters
1 Bishop Katie
2 Transfers from Appleton WELS
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8 WELS members to begin with, leaving a possible 7 unchurched at best.
Let's face it - If Ski and Bishop Katie held services on Sunday morning, the place would be nearly empty. Notice the calendar during Advent, Lent, and any other sacred time for Gospel services - Worship at St. Peter, Freedom.
Twenty sub-woofers (!) do not have the horsepower to overcome what is lacking at The CORE Lutheran Church.
20 comments:
really??? who bought his house??
call Oliver Stone!!! must be a WELS conspiracy! you crazy old bat! stick to gardening and birdwatching... that better suits your age...
Do all WELS pastor's come with a MID-LIFE Crisis?
Diversion of funds? Let's see - you don't know where the funds are coming from or who is providing the funds yet you would have everyone believe that funds are being diverted.
Lack of transparency points to C&C skulduggery of some kind. They are as straight as a corkscrew.
Fruits of the Valleskey doctrine are popping up all over the place.
Jerkson- You need to answer Real Ichabod. Are you a synergist?
Anon 1:07 To whom should the donor be transparent? You...ha! Jerkson...ha!
Anonymous WELS pastors, please explain why you believe Pastor Jackson is a synergist. Your direct quotes from Pastor Jackson's statements, Holy Scripture and the Lutheran Confessions will allow everyone to judge your concerns.
Also...if this anonymous donor weren't hoodwinked into supporting The CORE might he be giving his dollars to less pietistic exercises?
Or, at least, pastors who don't value the teaching of mega church founders over their own religion?
Ask DP Doug, his FB friend. MariQueen, an alleged singer, tried posing with her clothes on
LOL. This gal must have been at pains trying to keep her clothes on. Unfortunately Dr. Greg, people fail to see your obvious sense of humor.
Apparently she has Filipino background like me, and this makes me very sad.
LPC
"Diversion means - The money could have been spent better than wasting it on a clown ministry"
WELS admonishes members not to get concerned about results, asserting that God works in mysterious ways. Just keep the money coming.
In other words, they care little or nothing as long as we are talking about OPM, other people's money. Now harmonize that with good stewardship.
Real, relational, and relevant are excellent psychobabble. The naive really eat it up.
2 Corinthians 11:3-4
3But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. 4For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
Are you following the real Christ, or a counterfeit Christ crafted by Satan with the help of the C&C and wayward pastors? How do you know? If you don’t know, you had better find out for the sake of your soul.
Jerkson & Snotty,
What came first, the donor or The Core?
Also...if this anonymous donor weren't hoodwinked into supporting The CORE might he be giving his dollars to less pietistic exercises?
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Not only that but the 15 people attending the CORE could better spend their time searching the Scriptures and at least receiving the Lord's Supper at another WELS church. Unless there is something I'm not seeing, it certainly does appear that there could be better ways to invest your money and donations to further the Gospel.
Also...if this anonymous donor weren't hoodwinked into supporting The CORE might he be giving his dollars to less pietistic exercises?
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Not only that but the 15 people attending the CORE could better spend their time searching the Scriptures and at least receiving the Lord's Supper at another WELS church. Unless there is something I'm not seeing, it certainly does appear that there could be better ways to invest your money and donations to further the Gospel.
Do you really think these clowns care about what happens to your soul?
Anon 12:13 You're another Jerkson zombie that takes in everything Jerkson spews out. I'm guessing that over 200 people are attending the CORE. And yes, you are not seeing. You're not even looking.
At first, St. Peter Freedom and the CORE operated as two separate entities. Now, suddenly, the BORE is "the downtown campus of St. Peter." Why is that?
After speaking with several members at St. Peter, it seems they can see the reason why. The BORE is one giant money vaccuum, currently being attended by 150 (not 200, Glende, anonymous Appleton pastor). Of those 150, 135 are already financially supporting their home WELS congregation.
Ski has 10 months of funding left. There is clearly no way his sandbox will be able to support itself under the current conditions after that big, initial wad of loot runs out.
So, the obvious plan is for "the downtown campus of St. Peter" to be incorporated into St. Peter's budget after the BORE's original stash runs out.
The question is, will the members of St. Peter really be dumb enough to support an obvious failure like the BORE, which was only designed to steal WELS members and isn't even doing very well in that departement? Or will they say "enough is enough" when the original misguided gift runs out -- and let the "downtown campus" of their church close?
By the way, how far gone is WELS in Appleton when you have a pastor like this leaving these kinds of comments? It really shows the true nature of the Pseudo-Baptists in the Fox Vally.
Fox Valley sure is an appropriate name.
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