like this at at St. Andrew Latte (WELS).
WELS church lady has left a new comment on your post "Spread the False Doctrine! Holy Word WELS, Austin,...":
Viewpoint is correct. We need to be God pleasers instead of people pleasers. First of all, it was NOT me who sent the information about Holy Word. Second, these multi-site churches are disturbing! Have you ever heard of Leadership Network? The web-site is leadnet.org, and they promote emergent church/church growth ideas. These organizations (even Willow Creek and Exponential) are not known for their Orthodox Lutheranism. It is my understanding (correct me if I am wrong) that the deal with the multi-sites is that the actual services is held at the "main" church and the sites view the sermon via web-cam or similar mode.
How Christ The Rock plays into this only raises more questions than answers. A more accurate description of Pastor Matt Doebler would have been to Photoshop a purple oxford shirt paired with some straight-leg jeans. How many Confessional WELS pastors are reading this post? Any number of them could reach out to Brother Matt. You 'gots' to have Lutheran in your title, and this business about hiding the communion 'ain't' what the Reformation leaders had in mind. Older pastors are responsible for shepherding the younger pastors.
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GJ - I understand Doebler and Patterson are not speaking, even though Gurgle and Kudu Don will soon be a bunny hop away from Rock and Roll.
If you think the Church Shrinkage Movement has been bad, wait until Emerging Church steps in to ramp up the radicalism. Nothing has been done to stop the Grow-ti-vational pastors, so why would they step back from the next stage of apostasy?
After all, Patterson recruited a bunch of WELS workers to attend Exponential together.
It will be interesting to watch Missouri's response to the same leaven when they throw Pope Jerry K. out of office and replace him with Harrison. Shape-shifter Paul McCain will have to refashion himself as a conservative again.
At the rate Lutherans are going, nothing will be left to barter away at the 2017 rah-rah, the 500th anniversary of the Reformation.
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I bet the multi-site is attractive to the CGers because then all those people who don't want communion but once a year, or never, could watch the service on-screen (like they watch TV in a sports bar), and no one around them takes communion. If they are in the main church, though, they'd feel uncomfortable if they stayed in the pews while others file up and down the rows.
And while the (W)ELS is sleeping their women are preparing to lead as equal partners in the ministry:
http://www.welswomen.net/site/cpage.asp?cpage_id=180009471&sec_id=180002756&nc=1263239640093
National WELS Women's
Leadership Conference
Leading with a Christ-like attitude
Keynote Address
Leading with a Christ-like Attitude: Kathie Wendland
We all envision ourselves being led by a Christ-like leader. After all, wouldn't that be the best situation possible? Do we fully comprehend though what it means to BE the Christ-like leader? Philippians 2 is a treasure chest of practical guidances for Christian leaders. The keynote will be holding the "attitude" of Christ as the example to encourage each of us as women Christian leaders to "conduct (ourselves) in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ," as we "shine like stars in the universe as (we) hold out the word of life," for those around us.
Group Presentations
Because You Are My God...Whatever: Valerie Johnson
Lord, I Shall Seek Your Face: Prof. Richard Gurgel
Break Out Sessions
Christian Leadership in the Secular World – Marilyn Sievert
Our faith doesn’t stop at the church doors, it follows us out into the world. We are a “royal priesthood, a chosen people.” We are meant to stand out and use our gifts to God’s glory and in His service. What does that mean for those gifted to be leaders? Let Christ be our guide. Explore the differences/similarities in the world’s ideas of leadership compared to following Christ as our guide.
Defining Your Leadership Style – Dr. Stacy Hoehl
Just as everybody has different gifts or callings, some gifts can be used differently. Leadership can take on many forms and strengths. It can lead in a variety of ways. Evaluate your strengths and style in order to make the most of your leadership opportunities.
Evaluating Bible Studies – President Paul Wendland
As Solomon said, “of making many books there is no end.” The same can be said for doctrinal materials and Bible studies. But which materials are valuable for building up faith and encouraging spiritual growth? Learn how to distinguish the quality study materials from the rest.
Overcoming Conflict in Service – Marilyn Miller
Although conflict can be an opportunity for growth, we may find that conflict is not always gracious. It doesn’t kindly remain outside when Christians are working together. As we serve our Lord faithfully, disagreements and discontent can creep in. We can address these issues in a loving way, remembering that we serve the same Lord and the same blood has redeemed us all.
Powerful Prayer – Ellen Cook
As in breathing, faith-filled Christians take in God’s grace and love through scripture and exhale to Him our praise and thanks through prayer. Examine the intimacy and power of prayer, trusting fully as we confidently pray, “Speak, Lord, for your servant is listening.”
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Reaching Women in the Church – Sally Valleskey
How is your women’s ministry wrapped? Still on the shelf, not yet chosen? Carefully planned, opened and being used to the full? Or all tied up in knots? Whatever your situation, we’ll open the gift of women’s ministry. We’ll look at how to reach various groups of women— some easy and some not so easy but still vital to the life of the congregation. Come with your challenges; come with ideas!
Sharing With a Servant's Heart– Sarah Owens
As Christian female leaders, we desire to serve Jesus, and well. We know He wants us to share His love everywhere we go. Jesus’ words that tell us to go and share with others may at times feel like a requirement we are not able to sufficiently accomplish, a task we cannot do perfectly. In this breakout session, we will hear Jesus’ assurances, turning His commission from a burden to an awesome privilege in which we are able to walk on holy ground, sharing His love.
Too Young To Serve?– Dr. Cynthia Whaley
Are you wondering whether you're ready to serve in your church? Do you feel like you have God-given gifts but you're not sure how to use them to further God's kingdom? Sometimes young people may doubt their value in the church, but God has a plan for you. Attend this session to help discover your God-given gifts and how to use them to His glory here on earth
http://www.welswomen.net/home/180002756/180002756/Guiding%20Principles.pdf
Women's Ministry Committee Members
Pastoral Advisors
Pastor Dave Kehl
Professor Rich Gurgel
Executive Team:
Marilyn Miller*
Kathie Wendland
Linda Buxa
Carolyn Sachs
Naomi Schmidt
Publications Team:
Linda Buxa*
Amanda Maresh
Melissa Bock
Franceska Wendland
Congregational Ministry Team:
Sally Valleskey*
Su Hanson
Edie Hintz
Jane Eddinger
National Conference Team:
Amanda Bourman*
Val Johnson
Laurie Starr
Vera-Ellen Cook
Sarah Owens
Mary Clemons
Web page Team:
Naomi Schmidt*
*Chairwoman
To contact the Women's Ministry Committee, please email carolyn.sachs@sab.wels.net
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