Tuesday, January 18, 2011

Grace Does Not Equal Forgiveness



LutherRocks has left a new comment on your post "Why DP Buchholz Will Not Discipline Church and Cha...":

Grace does not equal forgiveness. This is another fallacy that I think some believe. By grace God makes forgiveness possible for those who believe in His promises; just like atonement does not equal universal forgiveness/justification.

JK

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GJ - Joe Krohn is making a good point here, one which seems to have evaded many of the clergy.

Terms must be distinguished unless they are synonyms. The Holy Spirit chose to communicate the Gospel in the most precise and flexible language on earth - Greek.

The Scriptures clearly teach that God gives us grace only through Instruments, the Means of Grace, the Word and Sacraments.

Universalists reason that a gracious God would forgive all sins. Karl Barth, the official theologian of Fuller Seminary taught that opinion in his Dogmatics, written with the help of his live-in mistress Charlotte Kirschbaum. In fact, she probably wrote most of it. Barth was dishonest in his politics, theology, and marriage. When someone assumes that everyone is forgiven and saved, anything is possible and excused in the name of grace.

This photo shows Charlotte standing next to Barth,
but it does not reveal what other pictures do -
she was hawt!
Kirschbaum also helped him promote Communism.


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LPC has left a new comment on your post "Grace Does Not Equal Forgiveness":

Pr Greg.

Joe indeed makes good points. Your statement When someone assumes that everyone is forgiven and saved, anything is possible and excused in the name of grace is very true, this is what does happen. Everyone is excused in the name of grace so anything goes.

LPC

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GJ - I contend that UOJ is the falsehood behind the famously bad behavior of WELS clergy and the criminal cover-ups of the synod officials.