Tuesday, January 18, 2011

Heavens to Betsy, Amy



Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "This Is Your Hero - Mark Jeske - WELS and LCMS":

Jeske is the Emergent New Age front man for the (W)ELS/LCMS common law merger. If he wasn't, he wouldn't still be there. Same with the Jeske's illegitimate offspring, Ski and Glende.

What does Jeske teach about Heaven?

"Q: What will we do there - sit on clouds and sing eternal praises?"

"Pastor Jeske: To me that's one of the most pathetic images of heavenly life, so injurious to our faith that it must haven been designed by Satan's P.R. team. Heaven will not be boring!"

When I asked Time Of Grace why Jeske would make such blasphemous statements they said his comments were taken out of context. Then proceeded to make the same remarks.

Good morning Brett,
Thank you for your email and for taking the time to contact us. I wish I could tell you that Pastor Jeske has time to respond to all questions and contact we receive at Time of Grace, but unfortunately that is not possible. The Time of Grace team, however, appreciates all contact and will respond to the best of our ability.
The quote you mention below, if taken as is, and out of context, would certainly appear to be somewhat disturbing. What could possibly be wrong with singing eternal praises to our God in heaven? However, in context, the point of Pastor Jeske's response is that Satan has done a very good job of detracting from our anticipated heavenly joy by painting heaven as boring
and anti-climactic. Honestly, who wants to sit on a cloud and sing all day?
And we've all heard the jokes about the good ole rascals down in hell having a great time living it up with their sinful ways. Sounds like a subtle scheme of Satan's to make us question the goal of our heavenly home and make us think that this world is the best it's gonna get, instead of embracing the fact that the best is yet to come. No wonder we get so attached to this world and can't bear to consider our mortality.
Through Pastor Jeske's messages I have a newfound anticipation of the currently unimaginable joys that await me in heaven. God has been silent with all the details, but as Pastor Jeske explained in the rest of his answer to that question - it won't be boring!
Thanks again for your interest, I hope this response has been helpful.
Blessings,
Amy

Amy Brinkman
Time of Grace Ministry
PO Box 301
Milwaukee, WI 53201
414-562-8463 phone
414-562-8464 fax
timeofgrace.org

2 comments:

Daniel Baker said...

I guess the ToG folks wouldn't like the "Heaven on Earth" analogy regarding the Divine Service . . .

Brett Meyer said...

People should be offended that their elders, clergy, church, district and Synod are allowing such heinous statements and practices to continue. I've wondered that myself as I witness the glassy eyed stares of the laity I talk to. The answer is in the false doctrines which they are being taught. UOJ is certainly the most wretched and damaging, separating the confessor from Christ. Yet, there are others which are taught with equal vigor and have similar effects. One is the great commission where the (W)ELS perverts Matt 28:19 into a Methodist/Pentecostal call to action. Another is concerns how public sins are treated and the proper application of

I ran across this (W)ELS essay which, regardless of it's ineffectiveness as a deterrent to the power of positive thinking (it really acts as a platform for the false teaching to express itself), promotes the same twisted agenda that we see time after time from the false teachers in the Lutheran Synods - "it's not what he said that matters, it's what he meant when he said, or did, XYZ that really matters."

Positive Thinking And Possibility Thinking In The Church: What Does Scripture Say?
[South Central District Pastor/Teacher/Delegate Conference
Lord of Life Evangelical Lutheran Church Friendswood, TX January 28-29, 1988]
By Pastor Michael J. Albrecht

Whenever we set out to evaluate and to criticize people with whom we find ourselves in disagreement, it behooves us to remember not only that slander is a crime, but also that no matter who they may be, they are protected by God's Eighth Commandment. Whether he be a heretic or a pagan, each and every one of my fellow human beings deserves for me to put the best construction on what he says and does. Page 1

I hope we are being fair to Dr. Peale if we now move on to a brief evaluation of his most popular book, assuming that we have sufficient background to understand his words as he intended them to be understood. Page 3

http://www.wlsessays.net/files/AlbrechtThinking.PDF