I'm sorry, but does a "confessional" Lutheran Synod
have any business seeking financial advice from Evangelical Protestant Dave
Ramsey? Yes, we should certainly be responsible stewards of the financial
gifts God has given us. But is legalism going to be promoted? For example, are
those attending going to be told that God will financially punish them for not
"tithing" (their strict 10%)?
The fact that the Indiana District is going to reimburse the sem students for this is disturbing to me, especially since the Indiana District is one of the more "conservative" districts of the LCMS. Perhaps I am making too much out of this, but coming from a Methobapticostal background, I can accurately guess what this will be about. Yeah, the guy has good advice, but in a Left Kingdom sense. I hope he does not mix the Right Kingdom in with his advice.
Perhaps CTSFW shouldn't rob its students with ridiculous tuition to support "The Club"; and perhaps the LCMS should provide more than one-percent of its budget to assist sem students and their families. Then Dave Ramsey wouldn't be necessary.
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GJ - Don't be so narrow-minded! The non-Lutherans have all the answers. Check out the experts loved by Missouri, WELS, the Little Sect on the Prairie, and the CLC (sic):
- Roman Catholic Bishop Weakland and his merry band of priestly Sodomites. WLC.
- Another bishop marching in religious procession and speaking at the Little Schoolhouse on the Prairie, Bethany.
- Leonard Sweet, space age Methodist at Concordia St. Louis.
- C. Peter Wagner training the troops for WELS. Pentecostal Babtist.
- Moo weaning Lutherans off the English Luther Bible.
- Hybels teaching the lot of them that a God without wrath sent Christ without a cross to a world without sin.
- Methodist Groeschel writing sermons for Glende, Ski, and many more.
- Valleskey dumpster diving at Fuller, calling it Spoiling the Egyptians.
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Financial Peace Seminar
Financial Peace Seminar Opportunities: The LCMS Indiana District will pay for M.Div., A.R. and Deaconess students and their spouses to attend the Financial Peace University 13 week seminar developed by Dave Ramsey (see more info here). There are three nearby locations and opportunities to choose from: Northeast Christian Church (4900 Stellhorn Road) beginning 6:30 p.m. on Sept. 1; Shoaff Park Baptist Church (6651 Saint Joe Road) beginning 9:00 a.m. on Sept. 10; and St. Paul’s Lutheran Church (1126 South Barr St.) beginning 6:30 p.m. on Sept. 11. Some of these locations will offer childcare (contact the Financial Aid Office for details). To attend, please sign up and pick up a voucher form in the Financial Aid Office.
Here is the question? How many of these failed ideas have worked? With emphasis on the word failed. Not a one of them the only thing these ideas do is manage to turn the Christian away from Christ and his mercy and concentrate and the world and its works.
While there is a place in the left hand of God's Kingdom for stewardship of ones own money; there is no basis or reasoning for bringing this advice into church. I can't help but thinking that this is like they did at a church
I used to go to that wanted me to give them money to remodel a church that did not need it to appeal to the "Seekers"( i.e Emergent types) who would never go there yet none of the money recieved would go for the much needed roof repairs. Don't you know the goal here is to get the people in the synod to listen to the B.S. pastors of the future who listen to this crap that has no business in church to put the guilt trip on otherwise Content and Confessional Lutherans. We need to do one thing with this tripe in our churches put it outside of the right hand NOW!
It is my prayer that the seminarians will not become the B.S. mini church salesmen of the future. I hope they don't buy into this or the temptation of the fualty "Glory Story" of bankrupt Methobaptocostalism, which will be full on emergent in no time.
The LCMS has fallen for the pitfalls of the Glory Story. These things take place to deceive the doctrinally ignorant and B.S. Mini Church Pastors of the future( seminarians Ablaze Lovers etc.) The goal here in my opinion is called learn to put the guilt trip on your parishoners by telling them they are not tithing enough insermons because the Synod is broke. I guess they were not watching the WELS close enough all Gurgel ever did was ask for handouts from churches for Mother Synod to waste and steal. I guess some in Missouri want in on the act.
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