raklatt (http://raklatt.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "With Heavy Hearts and Heavier Boots: Holy Word WE...":
The only Justification in the 6-1/2 pages from the group of so-called Evangelical Lutherans from Holy Word is a justification of the doctrine they teach. That doctrine is not Lutheran, has little or no Evangel, and no good news for the Krohns.
Admittedly, we might say it the clearest and most detailed explication of that false doctrine we have ever read. It is so plainly put that the errors stand out like a sore thumb.
No sore thumb is the Krohn reply. It, too, is clear and well detailed; an accurate treatment of what Lutheran doctrine is, even drawn from the marginal texts of the NIV. The leadership of Holy Word has had its preaching and teaching correctly judged. Instead of getting their backs up, those leaders should let go of the doctrines they have studied and study the doctrine of the Scriptures as properly taught in the Book of Concord.
An embarrassment in the situation is the fact that current and former high echelon leadership in the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod is key to the presentation of false doctrine.
The Krohns are not alone. Many WELS members have been treated in similar fashion though not so publicly. Others have just departed unnoticed. As the Scriptures point out, these situations exist to make manifest that which is correct.
Blessings, prayers, and thank-yous to and for the Krohns and all who have borne the cross while pointing out the errors or simply understanding them as such.
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arkos has left a new comment on your post "With Heavy Hearts and Heavier Boots: Holy Word WE...":
Fake Ichabod purported this same nonsense about the reformers always claiming two causes of justification (grace of God and merits of Christ). That is just not true. The Formula of Concord states:
25] For not everything that belongs to conversion belongs likewise to the article of justification, in and to which belong and are necessary only the grace of God, the merit of Christ, and faith, which receives this in the promise of the Gospel, whereby the righteousness of Christ is imputed to us, whence we receive and have forgiveness of sins, reconciliation with God, sonship, and heirship of eternal life.
26] Therefore true, saving faith is not in those who are without contrition and sorrow, and have a wicked purpose to remain and persevere in sins; but true contrition precedes, and genuine faith is in or with true repentance [justifying faith is in those who repent truly, not feignedly].
They are taking a list of 3 and reducing it to 2. That is either deceptive or poor scholarship or both.
(I made the same comment on fake ichabod. They never posted it or answered it.)
Someone wrote:
Arguing with UOJ'ers is utterly predictable. One can expect replies rife with imprecise, vague, and ambiguous terminology, commingling of theological truths (redemption, atonement, justification), non-refutation of the Calov and also R. Preus quotes--it's all there, every time. Wow, what a hasty process at HW! A quick purge from the system and jettisoned.
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On Luther Rocks, Joe Krohn's Blog -
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Joe,
I am nauseated by this travesty - I am also sickened by the erroneous differentiation these so-called leaders make between "Excommunication" and what they are doing to you. In fact, they *are* accusing you of unrepentant sin (i.e. maintaining false doctrine), and are prohibiting you from receiving the Blessed Sacrament in their fellowship (moreover, in our synodical fellowship). Despite what they call it, they *are* Excommunicating you.
In any event, I am behind you and your family. I am curious - are you allowed to attend the voter's meeting? Since you haven't been Excommunicated yet, I don't see how they could bar you from it. Moreover, do you intend to state your case with your fellow congregants? Your leadership may be off the deep-end, but are the sheep off the cliff with their "Shepherds" yet?
You and your family are in my prayers.
