Tuesday, October 25, 2011

Huber and Walther

Jay Webber quotes the Pietist Rambach with approval,
Jay is also a Tom Hardt UOJ fan.


bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Calov, Gerhard, and Quenstedt: Are These Men Addre...":

Samuel Huber (1547‐1624) has been the UOJer's alibi man ever since 1870. The reason the terms OJ and UOJ are allegedly not found in the Orthodox theologians is Huber made the terms radioactive even though Luther and the Orthodox theologians all supposedly believed in UOJ. What a bunch of bunk!

http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2011/01/wels-bourman-uoj.html

Schmidt states that old dogmaticians didn’t often speak of universal, objective justification because of Huber who taught “that God had not only justified all men already, but had also elected them to eternal life” (21).

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Another UOJ Stormtrooper will show up to speak at the Ft. Wayne Conference -


Lutheran Confessions Symposium:
Justification in a Contemporary Context

Wednesday, January 18, 2012

1:30 p.m.“The Doctrine of Justification after Google”Dr. Lawrence R. Rast, Jr.Sihler Auditorium
2:45 p.m.“Evangelicals and Lutherans on Justification: Similarities and Differences”Dr. Scott R. MurraySihler Auditorium
3:45 p.m.“From Schleiermacher to Ritschl: An Overview of the Doctrine of Justification in the 19th Century”Dr. Naomichi MasakiSihler Auditorium
5:00 p.m.Choral Vespers Kramer Chapel
6:15 p.m.Dinner Katherine Luther Dining Hall

Thursday, January 19, 2012

8:30 a.m.“The New Perspective on Paul: Justification and Its Interpretation of Luther”Dr. Erik M. HeenSihler Auditorium
10:00 a.m.Chapel Kramer Chapel
10:30 a.m.Coffee Break Student Commons
11:15 a.m.“Justification: Jesus vs. Paul”Dr. David P. ScaerSihler Auditorium
12:15 p.m.Lunch Katherine Luther Dining Hall
1:45 p.m.“A Catholic Perspective on the Joint Declaration of the Doctrine of Justification”Dr. Christopher J. MalloySihler Auditorium
2:45 p.m.“Justification in the Finnish Luther School”Dr. Gordon L. IsaacSihler Auditorium
3:45 p.m.Panel Discussion: Similarities and Dissimilarities on Justification: Comparing Reformation Era and Contemporary Views Sihler Auditorium
4:45 p.m.Vespers and Organ RecitalMr. Timothy Spelbring, OrganistKramer Chapel
5:30 p.m.Reception Student Commons
6:30 p.m.Banquet Katherine Luther Dining Hall

Friday, January 20, 2012

9:00 a.m.“The Eucharistic Prayer and Justification”Prof. Roland ZieglerSihler Auditorium
10:00 a.m.“Atonement and Justification in the Theology of Gerhard Forde: A Contemporary Context”Dr. Jack D. KilcreaseSihler Au

5 comments:

LPC said...

This is an enjoyable research finding. Walther was a Huberite. He knew of him. Walther might warn his students of the Huberian controversy the same way he warned people of Calvinism; but a person can do that without being aware in himself that he has been operating in the same paradigm.

A person can spot the devil (and who would admit that he is a friend?) in others but not realise that he is devilish himself.

LPC

bruce-church said...

"Another UOJ Stormtrooper will show up to speak at the Ft. Wayne Conference"

I see two: Dr. David P. Scaer and Dr. Jack D. Kilcrease.

Am I not right about Scaer?

Gregory L. Jackson said...

Bruce, you are right about Scaer, who with Weinrich is one of "pastor as priest" professors at The Surrendered Fort.

I see a big push for UOJ at this upcoming conference. That indicates a need to prop up their favorite false doctrine, the foundation for their other Enthusiastic errors.

bruce-church said...

Not only prop UOJ up, but prepare for the future onslaught on UOJ. I think that they know that UOJ-skeptics are searching for the REAL sources of UOJ, and one or two skeptics may already know the true sources of UOJ, and they know other instances where Walther plagiarized his ideas, but they won't reveal them until they are done with their extended studies, which are drawn out by having real jobs and other scholarly pursuits. So what do they UOJers do? The bone up on the period where they think the land mines might lie in order to be prepared for that fateful day when UOJ and Walther are exposed to the light of day. (Walther, like most plagiarizers, figured he'd only be exposed on Judgment Day, but it's looking less and less like that will be the case.)

LPC said...

Bruce,

Plagiarize is the word. Thanks for that.

The way he did it was clever, he denounced Huber but at the same time adopted Huber's paradigm. Neat.

The side effect of this? Well he sounded original or insightful and even orthodox.

If a person can be dishonest in his relationship with people (kidnapping etc), does this not trickle down to being dishonest in theology?

Look at Issues Etc., they have now featured Walther's life twice and probably more to come. What is more is that they do it with much adoration.


LPC