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Excellent observations, rlschultz!
Did you catch how Bivens described the pastor's role in the Divine Service rite of Confession/Absolution in his Q&A answer posted here on Ichabod (http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2011/10/false-teachers-mislead-students-at.html)?
"This is why (AC V - i.e. UOJ) we may speak to one another to say 'Your sins are forgiven' or 'In the name of God, I forgive your sins.' This is why a pastor, acting on behalf of all the Christians in the assembly, says the same thing."
That's not how the rite reads even in the WELS CW hymnal: "Therefore, as a called servant of Christ and by his authority, I forgive you..."
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GJ - UOJ extinguishes the concept of the Means of Grace and obliterates the real Gospel with a fake Gospel of all-forgiveness masking all-law, which is really their message for most people. For the right people, it is all-forgiveness, which means they can do whatever they want. Notice how they waver between excusing whatever they do while condemning everyone else.
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What on earth would motivate an unbeliever to come to church by preaching that kind of a Gospel without the Law to show the need for that Gospel? I suppose that is why many WELS churches are eliminating confession and absolution. We wouldn't want to confuse these folks if they happened to start attending regularly. That would explain the need to hide Holy Communion as well. Of course there is no need for the sacrament if you are already forgiven. People need to see where this going.
There is so much of this UOJ bile in the WLS online essay files that there is not enough time in the day to post it all here.
LutherRocks,
WELS really never got out of it. UOJ is Pietism and WELS' roots (and branches) is Pietism. The rationale for not offering Holy Communion every Sunday or not offering Private Absolution for that matter is because "No one will really understand what the Lutheran church teaches about 'absolution' (declaring forgiveness of sins) unless he clearly understands the truth of objective or universal justification. That is at the very heart of what we believe and teach. Long ago God has already forgiven every human being his or her sins." (F. Bivens)
Contra Apology Art. VI: "For we also retain confession, especially on account of the absolution, as being the word of God which, by divine authority, the power of the keys pronounces upon individuals. 3] Therefore it would be wicked to remove private absolution from the Church. 4] Neither do they understand what the remission of sins or the power of the keys is, if there are any who despise private absolution."
When was the last time you went to Private Absolution? When was the last time you even heard a WELS pastor talk about Private Absolution, except to denounce it as "Catholic"?
"There is so much of this UOJ bile in the WLS online essay files"
True. I have my browser SafeSearch filter set to No UOJ, and the filter clogs up and computer crashes every time I navigate to the WELS Essay files.
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