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| Driscoll wears Mickey Mouse, but he brings destruction. |
Here is Paul McCain:
Every Christian has a creed, either formal or informal, we all have something which we would say, “This is what I believe.” And this is precisely what “Creed” means, from the Latin word “credo” or “I believe.”
http://cyberbrethren.com/2012/05/30/creeds-are-not-biblical-oh-really-use-this-next-time-you-hear-that/
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Here is Pastor Dave Moerbe:
Every Christian has a creed, either formal or informal, we all have something which we would say, “This is what I believe.” And this is precisely what “Creed” means, from the Latin word “credo” or “I believe.”
http://www.gardendalegoodshepherd.org/blog/2012/05/creeds-are-not-biblical-oh-really-use-this-next-time-you-hear-that/
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Both are posted with the same date. Moerbe is a big fan of Mark Driscoll - like Tim Glende and Pastor Ski (WELS, Fox Valley). The WELS Changers think Driscoll is the bomb.
I found the same post again, here:
http://lutheransyndicate.com/?p=12015
That is an aggregator site, picking up things from all over blogdom - like McCain - but giving credit - unlike McCain. Lutheran Synodicate gives McCain the credit and an earlier date of May 27th.
I found a Catholic site citing a WELS member - with almost the same post, except for the snarky comment about not knowing which book the Biblical list came from - 2010.
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=460443
May 23, '10, 11:58 am
Join Date: June 18, 2008
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Religion: Lutheran (WELS)
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Both writers have the exact same recollection about an old Lutheran book - McCain and Moerbe:
I thought you would enjoy something I’ve been, literally, carrying around with me for eight years or more. It is a page I photocopied out of a very old Lutheran theology book. Shame on me, I did not write down from whence this page came, but it is old. From the early 17th century. It is a phrase-by-phrase presentation of the Apostles’ Creed with corresponding Bible texts both from the Old Testament and New Testament. It cites verses we may be familiar with as “proof texts” for the Creed, but interestingly, it also cites texts we might not first think of as proof passages for the various phrases in the Creed.
Both copied this cartoon:
And I found an earlier reference to McCain, from 2009:
http://2t42.blogspot.com/2009_06_01_archive.html
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GJ - Readers can see how confusing this is. Pastor Moerbe gives the impression he just wrote and published his post, although he gives all the glory to Driscoll and the cussing pastor's Rebel's Guide to Joy when promoting his new "Bible" study.
McCain and others substitute HT (Hardly Trying?) and a vague name (no link) when they are copying. This leads to no HT and no name at all.
The difference between plagiarism and scholarship is:
1. Quotation marks - or the equivalent.
2. A precise citation.
Lacking one or both of those marks of scholarship and academic honesty, it is academic dishonesty at best, plagiarism at worst.
The use of the cartoon by McCain and Moerbe is ironic humor. McCain is obsessed with promoting the peculiar dogma of Halle University (and Samuel Huber) - Universal Objective Justification. The Bible and the Confessions oppose that false teaching. Where is UOJ in the Creeds, the Book of Concord?
Moerbe loves Driscoll so much that he wants his members to study The Rebel's Guide to Joy. But does he really think he is teaching from the Bible when Driscoll is his creed, his passion, his treasure?
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| Driscoll with the Calvinist editor of the ESV, which is the latest rendition of the National Council of Churches' RSV. The NCC makes the Left seem conservative in comparison. |
PS - the list of Biblical citations is also found here - http://bookofconcord.org/creeds-apostle.php
No one seems to know the origin, but they have the same list -
http://bangsarlutheran.org/about/beliefs/the-apostles-creed/
I found the entire post, without the variation on the 17th century book carried around by McCain, attributed to WELS on this Catholic forum, 2010 -
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=460443
