Louis Benoit (Louis) Intermediate Member Username: Louis Post Number: 291 Registered: 12-2010 |
“Who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised because of our justification.” This is how Romans 4:25 reads. Why was Jesus delivered up? Because of our offenses, that’s why. Why was Jesus raised? Because of our justification, that’s why. What does this mean? Our sins are the reason he died. His death did not cause our sins. Our sins caused his death. Just so, our justification is the reason he rose. His resurrection did not cause our justification. Our justification caused his resurrection. The resurrection of Jesus is our absolution. It is God's public public announcement that when Jesus died because of our sins he took those sins away. Had he not taken those sins away we would not have been justified. Had we not been justified he would have stayed dead. But he was raised from the dead. Why? Because he succeeded in taking away our sins, that is, because we were justified. This is the clear meaning of Romans 4:25, Brett. The reason you and Christian Schulz and Daniel Baker reject objective justification is because you reject the Bible. You are Gospel-doubters because you are Bible-doubters and you are Bible-doubters because you are Gospel-doubters. | ||
     Brett Meyer (Brett_meyer) Member Username: Brett_meyer Post Number: 75 Registered: 1-2008 |
Louis I disagree. In fact, the Christian Book of Concord disagrees here: 10] These treasures are offered us by the Holy Ghost in the promise of the holy Gospel; and faith alone is the only means by which we lay hold upon, accept, and apply, and appropriate them to ourselves. 11] This faith is a gift of God, by which we truly learn to know Christ, our Redeemer, in the Word of the Gospel, and trust in Him, that for the sake of His obedience alone we have the forgiveness of sins by grace, are regarded as godly and righteous by God the father, and are eternally saved. 12] Therefore it is considered and understood to be the same thing when Paul says that we are justified by faith, Rom. 3, 28, or that faith is counted to us for righteousness, Rom. 4, 5, and when he says that we are made righteous by the obedience of One, Rom. 5, 19, or that by the righteousness of One justification of faith came to all men, Rom. 5, 18. 13] For faith justifies, not for this cause and reason that it is so good a work and so fair a virtue, but because it lays hold of and accepts the merit of Christ in the promise of the holy Gospel; for this must be applied and appropriated to us by faith, if we are to be justified thereby. 14] Therefore the righteousness which is imputed to faith or to the believer out of pure grace is the obedience, suffering, and resurrection of Christ, since He has made satisfaction for us to the Law, and paid for [expiated] our sins. 15] For since Christ is not man alone, but God and man in one undivided person, He was as little subject to the Law, because He is the Lord of the Law, as He had to suffer and die as far as His person is concerned. For this reason, then, His obedience, not only in suffering and dying, but also in this, that He in our stead was voluntarily made under the Law, and fulfilled it by this obedience, is imputed to us for righteousness, so that, on account of this complete obedience, which He rendered His heavenly Father for us, by doing and suffering, in living and dying, God forgives our sins, regards us as godly and righteous, and eternally saves us. 16] This righteousness is offered us by the Holy Ghost through the Gospel and in the Sacraments, and is applied, appropriated, and received through faith, whence believers have reconciliation with God, forgiveness of sins, the grace of God sonship, and heirship of eternal life. 17] Accordingly, the word justify here means to declare righteous and free from sins, and to absolve one from eternal punishment for the sake of Christ's righteousness, which is imputed by God to faith, Phil. 3, 9. For this use and understanding of this word is common in the Holy Scriptures of the Old and the New Testament. Prov. 17, 15: He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord. Is. 5, 23: Woe unto them which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! Rom. 8, 33: Who shall lay anything to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth, that is, absolves from sins and acquits. http://www.bookofconcord.org/sd-righteousness.php The doctrine of Objective Justification makes a mockery of Christ's atonement when it teaches the whole world was declared righteous and absolved of all sin yet it is insufficient since most are condemned to Hell for eternity because they didn't believe they were absolved and declared righteous. Didn't Christ die to pay for the universal sin of unbelief also? And wasn't that sin absolved in everyone when the others were? |
