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| Nominal Lutherans are devouring the Enthusiasm of Rome and the Enthusiasm of Fuller Seminary. |
bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "ELCA's Luther Seminary - Too Big To Fail?":
Thanks Lito for the info on the crucifixes. I have no stories like that!
Supposedly the new pope's being a Jesuit will make him a better missionary for Europe:
Ukrainian Catholics welcome pope who speaks their language:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=c5bgKP9hAKE
Never trust a Jesuit.
The wily Jesuit pope has told the weeping Italians that he chose the name Francis to honor Francis of Assisi, but he might have mentioned that the second most famous Jesuit is Francis Xavier. Many Roman Catholics are named Francis X. Surname after that Jesuit.
Opinions vary about the new pope. Some Evangelicals are praying that he will be a good pope. I wonder how that is defined - a better Antichrist, a sugar-coated Antichrist, or a bishop who rejects all the dogmas of Rome?
There are areas of agreement with traditional Catholicism, but the Chief Article of Christianity, justification by faith, is greeted with catcalls and Let him be damned! Anathema sit! - Just like WELS, Cyberbrethren, Steadfast Lutherans (sic), and Lutherquest (sic).
The leadership of Rome is committed to New Theology, which is nothing more than a version of mainline, rationalistic Protestant theology, the heritage of Schleiermacher at Halle University. Although the librarians of modern theology may classify these versions into many different categories, the advocates all dismiss the content of the Scriptures in favor of using select words to promote their ideas. The central message of modern theology is - Everyone is forgiven, so let's have some fun with creative writing.
Robert Jenson, the Great Apostate of ELCA, concedes that he really should become a Roman Catholic, but he is not going to do it. Why should he? Jenson has all the book, professorship, and speaking fees he needs from trashing every article of faith. He is the "most creative Lutheran theologian today."
Fuller Seminary Toxins
Missouri, WELS, and the ELS have followed ELCA in kissing up to Rome, but they also send their leaders and future leaders to Fuller Seminary, Trinity Divinity, and Willow Creek.
Fuller and Willow Creek were leaders in feminist theology long before WELS discovered the intoxicating appeal of making everyone a minister, every gender a priest.
Thanks to the pan-denominational network set up at those beehives of Enthusiasm, the "conservative" Lutherans are delighted to work with and emulate the abortion-loving, pan-sexual ELCA ministerium. And they extend the Left Foot of Fellowship with the same gusto as ELCA.
Thrivent Mediocre Insurance is happy to help with the network, too. The AAL/LB merger allowed them to hide their horrid figures and make their move into all denominations, which will soon be official.
Feeding Both Heads at Once
Although ELCA favors Rome and WELS/LCMS kisses up to Fuller, both segments cater to the two natures of Enthusiasm - high church smells and bells, low church clowns and freaks. This shows how all the denominations are headed at full speed into apostasy, taking as many people as possible with them.
The longer each minister and layman stays while "trying to help" and "working from within," the more conditioned everyone is to this apostasy, which is the chief sign of the end.
KJV 2 Thessalonians 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by
our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor
by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any
means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away [Apostasy] first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember
ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he
might be revealed in his time
This passage about falling away from faith (apostasy) can only describe the Antichrist in Rome. He is the leader of apostasy because he teaches against justification by faith, has the greatest possible following, and holds himself to be infallible in teaching, God-like. Papal commentators call him Christ's representative on earth - and even Christ Himself.
2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Readers can look at the actions of Missouri, Rome, WELS, and the ELS in covering up crimes and destroying evidence. At the same time those denominations brutalize their faithful clergy and laity, so much that people hide their names when agreeing with the Scriptures.
The greedy denominations have no qualms about letting people pay for their own churches and properties and taking them away when it serves their agenda. I wonder how many would buy a car that way, making $25,000 in payments and then watching it hauled away by the dealership. But the members and clergy give that and more to their congregations and denominations - to lease false doctrine and support criminal conduct.
Fuller and Rome both claim great miracles, and they are good at making vast sums of money disappear.
Lutherans today are divided between "Love me some Fuller" and "Love me some Rome." Luther is a stranger to them, and the Means of Grace are alien to their thinking.
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Unknown has left a new comment on your post "The Two-Headed Calf of Enthusiasm - Devours Food T...":
Never trust a Jesuit.
There are Roman Catholics who will agree with you on that one. Since the 1960's, the Jesuits have been home to some of the most notorious dissenters, or else have given them prominent teaching positions (such as Dan Maguire at Marquette University). In fact, even though Francis is fairly conservative in theology, quite a few in the traditionalist faction had a collective meltdown, as he is not a staunch supporter of the older liturgy.
Dave P.
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GJ - A fairly conservative Jesuit is one who masks his Unitarianism.
