     Brett Meyer (Brett_meyer) Member Username: Brett_meyer Post Number: 105 Registered: 1-2008 |
Rev. Williams states, “All Mr. Meyer is doing is finding all the subjective justification passages in the bible, sections of the Confessions and works of Luther while ignoring the objective justification passages.” This is incorrect. At 10:34am I showed where key UOJ Scripture passages that are ab-used to show how the unbelieving world has been imputed Christ’s righteousness for the forgiveness of sins without faith – actually includes salvation. Boisclair at 9:31pm, “affirms that sinners are justified by the imputation of the alien righteousness of Christ.” So that if righteousness comes to unbelievers then so does salvation. Romans 5:17-18, “ For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.” It is your faith in your rationalistic extrapolations that blinds you to your folly – so much so that you accuse me of your own crimes. Through your rejection of the Holy Spirit’s faith, the Gospel of the Triune God and therefore Christ Himself, you are incapable of understanding the clear Words of Scripture and the equally clear words of the Lutheran Confessions. You throw the OJ and SJ terms around and accuse me of ignoring OJ while the entire time I’ve been providing the Biblical and Confessional proof that there is nothing in Christ’s doctrine of Justification that is not fully and completely Objective – from Christ’s accepted payment for the whole worlds sins to the gracious gift of faith in Him alone that the Holy Spirit works solely through Word and Sacrament – of which Christ is the Author and Finisher. Franz states, “Nowhere else in Holy Scripture are believers referred to by God as ungodly.” Simply another example of the incessant rationalism that comes with the confession of the false gospel of Universal Objective Justification. Scripture rejects your teaching Franz in Galatians 3:27, “For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.” And Romans 8:33, “Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.” You teach that God refers to all those who have put on Christ as ungodly. This is blasphemy which is the bread and butter of the false gospel of UOJ. Rev. Williams rally’s with, “Don't forget Rom. 5 Franz” and goes on to quote verses 6-11 but fails to quote verses 1-5. Romans 5 1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope: 5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us. 6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. NOTE – the we in the verses Rev. Williams hijacks for his nefarious purposes doesn’t include the unbelieving world as he and the doctrine of UOJ teach. But it refers to those justified by faith in verse 1, verse 2, verse 3, verse 5 using ‘our’ and ‘us’ and then into verse 6. Shame upon you all for perverting the Scriptures to serve your lust for righteousness without the faith of the Holy Spirit which you have rejected and which you teach others to reject as well. |
