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Monday, April 25, 2016

Faithless Webber - Let's Not Distort UOJ by Saying "Without Faith."!
That Is The Entire Message of UOJ

Andreae got the Book of Concord going.


Thomas Schmeling To clarify the semantics in play here, from your perspective, "universal salvation without faith" is different from universal justification without faith?
David Jay Webber When "without faith" is added, it distorts the whole point of the teaching. The preaching of the message of the justification of Jesus in his resurrection, for the sake of all for whom he had died, and in their stead, is that which creates faith, and is the object of faith. Objective justification is for the sake of faith, and as a teaching is never to be separated from teaching about the faith that receives it.
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The ELS is in fellowship with WELS,
and WELS re-issued this strange book in 2011.
Therefore, this is exactly what the ELS believes as well.
Webber's shallow but verbose essay does not change that at all.

GJ - Webber calls UOJ "orthodox," but his favorite exponents are:

Rambach - a Pietist of the Pietists.
Quistorp- a Pietist few have ever heard of.
The founder of the Canadian ELCA/ELCiC Seminary - even less known than Quistorp.