|The ELCiC bishop managed to employ a pastor who served in the CLC (sic), WELS, ELCA,|
People are interested in doctrinal discussions, which are banned, suppressed, and disciplined in WELS, LCMS, and the remains of the ELS and CLC (sic).
This is the latest ELCA outrage, now being discussed on the ALPB forum, but I am not going to offer details. Read it at your own risk. Elle link about the future ELCA pastor.
Lutheran Forum - Gerald Patrick Thomas case.
ELCA's attempt to obtain insurance coverage of the Gerald Patrick Thomas Case.
| ELCiC Pastor Horst Gutsche was working with|
CLC Pastor Dave Koenig just before Horst died.
The CLC had no scruples about working with
the Canadian ELCA pastor -
until the court documents were published here.
By genius, I mean a body of thought that appeals to a vast number of people. For example Buddhism has a very simple catechism - Four Noble Truths and an Eightfold Path. Hinduism has the all-embracing practice of Yoga - and Yoga is Hinduism. Buddhism and Hinduism do not object to being grafted onto Christianity, getting a free ride from the practice. We should be frank about a religion when millions profess it openly or practice it unawares. The local Babtist cancer group combines Yoga - first of all - with their cell group meetings. Not going to Yoga is considered a fault.
|High church, low church, no church at all?|
The only sin is questioning UOJ.
Universal Objective Justification - Uniting the Apostate Denominations - All of Them
Universal Objective Justification teaches that God forgave and saved the entire world when Christ rose from the dead - or alternately, when He died on the cross - or both.
UOJ came from Calvinism in the form of Pietism, thanks to Spener, who is called "the first union theologian." He was instrumental in uniting Lutheran and Calvinistic doctrine, which became dominant in Europe and caused great disturbances in America.
|Or - two fake doctorates.|
The Genius of UOJ
Since UOJ teaches that everyone is born forgiven and saved, all doctrinal and worship concerns evaporate. That is why so many trendy church businesses have grace in their names - Grace Point, Time of Grace, Amazing Grace. Those who think faith in Christ matters are anti-grace.
Many congregations continue with the extremes of high church Romanism, smells and bells, major investments in big sticks, mitres, copes and capes.
But others feature multiple big screens, fat clergy bellies hanging over wrinkled jeans, and shirts saved from DIY oil-changes. They all teach universal grace, universal forgiveness, universal salvation.
| Harrison admitted to $50-60 million a year from Thrivent.|
Who are they working for? - their sects, or Thrivent?
They all agree on using up the loot and teaching UOJ.
Disgusted with ELCA, Working with ELCA
These UOJ fanatics are forever knocking ELCA for its various crimes and misdemeanors. The spark for this post came from the liberal ALPB Online Forum - largely ELCA and liberal LCMS - raging about the newest scandal involving a female pastoral candidate, commenting on past outrages.
Time and again, when the "conservative" LCMS and WELS pastors hold themselves above ELCA and thank God they are not ELCA, so I ask, "Why do you work with them?"
"Harumpf!", they respond. "I do not work with them."
"Oh yes you do. You work with them all the time, through the United Nations, through Thrivent, through branch activities, through the Time of Grace pan-Lutheran UOJ broadcasts." Like harpies, they rake the money into their nasty pockets and live like princes when going to various joint conferences, task forces, and meetings. Cooperation pays well.
This can be a very long post, detailing ELCA's work with the Church of Rome, the Baptists, the United Church of Christ, the Moravians, and a few other denominations. The LCMS and WELS are one with them also, because they are united with ELCA.
Right and Wrong - No Longer a Consideration
UOJ rejects the Scriptures altogether, although the Bible, if sufficiently corrupted (New NIV) can be quoted now and again - especially about tithing!
The UOJists are nasty, mean, easily angered, vindictive, and forever dishonest. They are poised condemn anything that does not meet their approval, but they have no conscience about what they do and say.
|The WELS Odd Couple teaches - Everyone is forgiven!|